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Germany, France, and Britain, though are beating us in test scores, especially in math and science. They still do things different than us. Not saying, though that would work for the U.S.


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Yeah, great idea when half the people saying the same want to do so to teach kids that Jesus rode on a dinosaur. And I'm sure the best education systems in the world DON'T have teachers' unions...wait, they do. America's education system is really no better or worse than it is in other large late-capitalist societies, with the exception of Japan really. Britain, France and Germany are in the same boat as us.

Why do you care if people want to teach their children a bunch of shit? Won't it just further show how much better you are than them? Big fucking deal that someone in rural Alabama or Louisiana thinks the earth is 6,000 old. That doesn't have any thing to do with the basic rules of reading, writing, and mathematics.

Apparently these same people already believe in Jesus riding dinosaurs, under our current system, so a lot of good it did in removing this belief from them. But make sure to run for the hills because we all know they are about to go a-convertin' and a burnin' witches.

The American university system is not heavily unionized and world-wide our universities are considered top-notch (though too many go and there is too much grade inflation). Something you cannot say about our primary school system.


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Why do you care if people want to teach their children a bunch of shit? Won't it just further show how much better you are than them?


lol no.

Public schools, controlling for race and income, are not inferior to private schools, either, and there's evidence suggesting they're even superior. The public education system's effectiveness in this country, like so many other things, is tied to class (and thus, to race too). Private schools look good by being exclusive by class (rich people can get special treatment for their kids if they're not that bright or have a learning disorder or act out, and afford tutors on the side too, who'd have thunk it?) and race, thus they don't have to deal with kids that are at risk of joining a gang, or have PTSD, or have behavioral issues. If, say, every inner-city kid got vouchered out, it'd overwhelm the private schools across the country and the wealthy whites would pull their own kids, money and resources out...putting everything right back to square one.

And yes, the most highly lauded education systems in the world have heavily unionized teachers.

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Germany, France, and Britain, though are beating us in test scores, especially in math and science. They still do things different than us. Not saying, though that would work for the U.S.


Double-check your OECD scores. They're essentially on the same level, we even beat them in some regards.

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Has the government opened up again yet?

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Long ago.

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ok.

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Has the government opened up again yet?

It was a big bunch of nothing. Life went on.


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