Section 1031, would let the military lock up both Americans and noncitizens in the 50 states. There would be no charges, no trial, no proof beyond a reasonable doubt. All that would be required would be suspicion.

I read that this was actually requested by the Obama Administration. My thought is that it is abominable. If captured outside the United States and on a battlefield, fine, lock them away without any habeas corpus rights for the remainder of hostilities and preferably in some secret prison in a friendly dictators country.

Except Obama plans to veto the bill:

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-ne ... ns-of-veto

Yeah I was going to say that too. I thought he was against this bill.

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_19413004



Thoughts?

What relevance is that to my statement? My understanding is the Administration's veto threat concerned Guantanamo type issues.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SenateSession4951

Go to the 4:43 mark and you can hear Democratic Senator Carl Levin on the floor of the Senate say just what I said. That the Obama administration pushed for the removal of the language which would have exempted U.S. Citizens from such indefinite detention.

What the hell are you talking about? I think that's what you want him to say more than what he actually stated. It would seem as though the president does have some desire to get something like this passed, but the senators drones on about how the bill is not developed enough, and later on states how the bill as it is could override 200 years of legal work, and how the bill as it currently exists could have horrible side effects.

Frankly the govt has been able to able to lock up people and hold them for a long time anyways (look at what happened after 9/11) and can simply suspend habeas corpus in a time of war.

Also, Obama could veto it but he will use drones to kill any threat (own citizen) it appears and imo I think there is nothing wrong with that.

In fact, when John McCain takes the floor, he gets pretty passionate about his frustration with Obama having an issue with the whole situation concerning the bill stripping away Miranda Rights

What relevance is that to my statement? My understanding is the Administration's veto threat concerned Guantanamo type issues.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SenateSession4951

Go to the 4:43 mark and you can hear Democratic Senator Carl Levin on the floor of the Senate say just what I said. That the Obama administration pushed for the removal of the language which would have exempted U.S. Citizens from such indefinite detention.