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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
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 Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Groucho wrote: It's typical libertarian philosophy which is basically "government is bad, mmkay?"
Unless it's a government program that benefits them personally; then they're usually completely in favor of it. They just don't want government helping other people. DoD contractor here and the DoD is a massively bloated Leviathan. I liked sequestration. But I am still for terrorists being killed with kinetic weapons from above.
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Pence used a private AOL (lolololololol) email account to conduct state business while Indiana governor, and was hacked. I just... Exasperating. BUT HILLARY'S EMAILS!!!!!  It's almost comical, the hypocrisy.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:15 am |
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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21549 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I honestly don't think anyone did not vote for Hillary JUST because of the email thing. It was a contributing factor but I think most lefties voted Clinton and most righties voted Trump. Because of differing political ideologies.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:55 am |
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zwackerm
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6152 Location: New York
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Melania looks good in a suit.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Eh I think the GOP's calculated mudslinging swayed enough gullible people away from Hillary for her private email non scandal.
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FILMO
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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Libs wrote: Pence used a private AOL (lolololololol) email account to conduct state business while Indiana governor, and was hacked. I just... Exasperating. BUT HILLARY'S EMAILS!!!!!  It's almost comical, the hypocrisy. The true crime here is still using AOL somewhen between 2013 and 2017!
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Ahh zwackerm. Promoting suicide.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:37 am |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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 Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Libs wrote: Pence used a private AOL (lolololololol) email account to conduct state business while Indiana governor, and was hacked. I just... Exasperating. BUT HILLARY'S EMAILS!!!!!  It's almost comical, the hypocrisy. Citation to Indiana law that he violated, please. Just to make it apples-to-apples.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:41 am |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
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 Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
You have to get 11 paragraphs in to this Chicago Tribune story http://tinyurl.com/jndgsb9 to see this: "Public officials are not barred from using personal email accounts under Indiana law, but the law is interpreted to mean that any official business conducted on private email must be retained to comply with public record laws." Granted, who the fuck uses AOL is the real issue. Also you have to read the story instead of the headline but partisans don't do such things.
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Chippy
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Technically Clinton didn't break the law, either.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:47 am |
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Caius
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You are correct. The F.B.I. did not recommend charges against her.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:52 am |
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Jiffy
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Yeah, the issue has less to do with any overt criminality and more to do with the stark hypocrisy that's on display.
But hey, that's politics, I guess, and I'm not sure I recall Pence specifically beating that drum on the campaign trail.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:34 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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The email "controversy" was the biggest load of bullshit in modern politics.
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Caius
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: The email "controversy" was the biggest load of bullshit in modern politics. What about Tex Cruz's dad as JFK's assassin? What about the Diebold election machines in Ohio in 2004 that "stole" the election? What about Sarah Palin taking Trig Palin as her son as a cover for her daughter? What about 9/11 was an inside job? What about Brandon Eich losing his job? What about Memories Pizza? What about Sandra Fluke?
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:29 pm |
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Chippy
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Most of those are conspiracy theories that very few ever even talked about.
Hillary's emails could have been the REASON she lost the election. That's fucking huge.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:49 pm |
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zwackerm
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Well the email thing certainly is not a good thing, it was a pretty big deal with the FBI getting involved but it was investigated and they don't seem to have found anything sensitive. While I'm sure it was a contributing factor in people's decision not to vote for her, I do think there were other reasons people voted for Trump besides this one thing.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:21 pm |
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Chippy
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Well she had a vagina. And we know how much y'all hate powerful vaginas.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:31 pm |
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zwackerm
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Yeah. Women suck!
Just kidding. Lol. That's not it for most people. Sure there are people who don't want women as president. But they aren't the majority. I heard far more disappointment about Trump being a white guy than Hillary being a woman.
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Chippy
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Yeah, sure you did.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:47 pm |
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zwackerm
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Chippy
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A shit ton of Democrats wanted to vote for Bernie Sanders.
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Groucho
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zwackerm wrote: Sure there are people who don't want women as president. But they aren't the majority. Here in Pennsylvania, we voted for Democrats for all the state seats. The only two Democrats who didn't get elected were Senator and President -- both women. All the men Democrats got elected, and the women lost by around 1%. You don't think there's 1% of the population that refuses to vote for women, no matter how qualified? Not sure how else to explain this discrepancy. 1 - 2% was all it took in three states for Trump to win, despite losing the overall popular vote.
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Caius
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Chippy wrote: Well she had a vagina. And we know how much y'all hate powerful vaginas. I didn't vote for Trump. I dislike him immensely. I also did not vote for Hillary and it has nothing to do with her being a lady.
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:40 pm |
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Caius
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Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: Sure there are people who don't want women as president. But they aren't the majority. Here in Pennsylvania, we voted for Democrats for all the state seats. The only two Democrats who didn't get elected were Senator and President -- both women. All the men Democrats got elected, and the women lost by around 1%. You don't think there's 1% of the population that refuses to vote for women, no matter how qualified? Not sure how else to explain this discrepancy. 1 - 2% was all it took in three states for Trump to win, despite losing the overall popular vote. How is that a valid comparison when the opponents were not the same? Trump also ran behind lots of Republicans in Congressional districts won by GOP Congressman. How does that square with your theory that Hillary's gender lost her a couple of swing states? That indicates to me some not small amount of GOP voters voted for their Congressman and either voted Hillary or (like me) at least did not vote for Trump. Also, I thought America was racist more than sexist. What about 2008 and 2012?
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