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nghtvsn
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:13 pm Posts: 11016 Location: Warren Theatre Oklahoma
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Oh mitt Romney looked like Lemony Snicket . Aging badly
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
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God what a depressing week. And it's barely even Wednesday.
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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Not sure Warren can overcome the Native American thing after the latest revelations
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6665
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
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Nancy Pelosi is a less desperate Trump fan than nghtvsn.
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nghtvsn
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:13 pm Posts: 11016 Location: Warren Theatre Oklahoma
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Shack wrote: Not sure Warren can overcome the Native American thing after the latest revelations Of course she can and should. This is small potatoes.
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25397 Location: Classified
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She (and Biden) won’t be able to overcome their decision to step aside for Hilary last election. She missed her chance. And there’s no way the Dems nominate another white. 2020 is Kamala’s to lose for better or worse.
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nghtvsn
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: She (and Biden) won’t be able to overcome their decision to step aside for Hilary last election. She missed her chance. And there’s no way the Dems nominate another white. 2020 is Kamala’s to lose for better or worse. Disagree. I know most want a female president and one day it will happen but Kamala isn't it. I think they'll have a better chance with Michelle who's actually likable, Julian Castro, Biden or Schultz. Michelle would be the best as she's not a politician, likable as I said and has the best surrogate in Obama.
_________________ 2009 World of KJ Fantasy Football World Champion Team MVP : Peyton Manning : Record 11-5 : Points 2669.00 [b]FREE KORRGAN 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. DONALD J. TRUMP #MAGA #KAG! 10,000 post achieved on - Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:49 pm
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25397 Location: Classified
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I just meant the primary. Hard to say how she will stack up against Trump. What kind of nicknames will he give her?
I would vote for Michelle but I think its too early for her. Dynasties are not “in” right now. Dems want an AOC but 20-25 years older. I think Kamala best fits that bill right now.
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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Agree that Harris is the favorite to win the nomination. She has to be careful not to set herself up to be the frontrunner too early though, and polls are slowly leaning that way.
It'd be ideal if Biden or Sanders decide to run, and if Warren officially jumps in as well. They'll draw most of the attention, and poll better just on name recognition, but ultimately won't win the nomination (Warren, in particular, is in bad shape) due to most of the passion in the party favoring fresher faces. That said, if Biden runs and the field continues to grow with fresher, younger names, I could see a scenario where he'd simply win the nomination due to everyone else splitting votes.
I'd keep a watch on Booker, too. Personally, I think he'll be unable to overcome Harris, but an unknown issue (scandal) or poor interview/debate performance from her could shift the tide towards him instead. The same situation would apply if O'Rourke decides to run, but I don't think he's prepared this cycle.
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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I'm a believer in Kamala. I think she has intelligence and integrity nghtvsn wrote: Shack wrote: Not sure Warren can overcome the Native American thing after the latest revelations Of course she can and should. This is small potatoes. I guess she could get nomination. But Trump would "but her emails" her into the ground with it.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15565 Location: Everywhere
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nghtvsn wrote: A Democrat with a bit of sense over the fake hocus pocus that's happening. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavl ... l-n2540820Speaking on Fox News Tuesday morning, freshman Congresswoman Katie Hill (D-CA) Quote: "The hangup again is going to be this term [wall] so I really really hope people can get past that."
"I think we can come to some kind of agreement that keeps the government open and addresses the major issues happening along the border," Hill continued. "I'm sure it'll get me in trouble with some folks. Listen, we all know it's not that 2,000 concrete barrier so I'm, you know, as long as it's not that, I'm pretty good." Different details, same politics.
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22202 Location: Places
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The Green New Deal is a complete disaster, I cannot believe that Dems are in all reality handing the least-likely-to-be-reelected incumbent ever a serious shot at reelection because theatre so fucking isolated and stupid from the realities of every day people.
Socialism, communism- they will NEVER work and even mores well NEVER EVER win. WTF is wrong with some of these complete idiots in office?
Biden or Romney, run as a moderate and SAVE US PLEASE
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Shack
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Excel wrote: The Green New Deal is a complete disaster, I cannot believe that Dems are in all reality handing the least-likely-to-be-reelected incumbent ever a serious shot at reelection because theatre so fucking isolated and stupid from the realities of every day people.
Socialism, communism- they will NEVER work and even mores well NEVER EVER win. WTF is wrong with some of these complete idiots in office?
Biden or Romney, run as a moderate and SAVE US PLEASE But the moderate candidate has people staying home on Election Day. I think only chance Democrats have is their nominee has passion to match the frenzied MAGAs
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nghtvsn
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:13 pm Posts: 11016 Location: Warren Theatre Oklahoma
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Michelle is your only hope.
_________________ 2009 World of KJ Fantasy Football World Champion Team MVP : Peyton Manning : Record 11-5 : Points 2669.00 [b]FREE KORRGAN 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. DONALD J. TRUMP #MAGA #KAG! 10,000 post achieved on - Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:49 pm
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Excel
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Shack wrote: Excel wrote: The Green New Deal is a complete disaster, I cannot believe that Dems are in all reality handing the least-likely-to-be-reelected incumbent ever a serious shot at reelection because theatre so fucking isolated and stupid from the realities of every day people.
Socialism, communism- they will NEVER work and even mores well NEVER EVER win. WTF is wrong with some of these complete idiots in office?
Biden or Romney, run as a moderate and SAVE US PLEASE But the moderate candidate has people staying home on Election Day. I think only chance Democrats have is their nominee has passion to match the frenzied MAGAs The extreme candidate will make people vote for Trump. I would vote for Trump before I voted for socialist in disguise which is frankly how AOC is presenting herself. Their ideology would produce terrible effects for everyone whereas Trump is hurting a select unfortunate few.
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
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Excel wrote: Shack wrote: Excel wrote: The Green New Deal is a complete disaster, I cannot believe that Dems are in all reality handing the least-likely-to-be-reelected incumbent ever a serious shot at reelection because theatre so fucking isolated and stupid from the realities of every day people.
Socialism, communism- they will NEVER work and even mores well NEVER EVER win. WTF is wrong with some of these complete idiots in office?
Biden or Romney, run as a moderate and SAVE US PLEASE But the moderate candidate has people staying home on Election Day. I think only chance Democrats have is their nominee has passion to match the frenzied MAGAs The extreme candidate will make people vote for Trump. I would vote for Trump before I voted for socialist in disguise which is frankly how AOC is presenting herself. Their ideology would produce terrible effects for everyone whereas Trump is hurting a select unfortunate few. You can rest assured AOC is not running in 2020. The proponents of the Green New Deal modeled their proposal after Western European countries. Currently, the focus is on universal health care and renewable energy. The rest is all floating ideas and far from any consensus among people on the left or in the center.
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
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Of much more immediate concern now is the current administration turning the US into an authoritarian state, promoting:
concentration over separation of powers,
rule by law over rule of law,
nationalism over individualism,
crony capitalism over market capitalism,
and propaganda over truth and evidence.
I am worried.
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Shack
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Excel wrote: Shack wrote: Excel wrote: The Green New Deal is a complete disaster, I cannot believe that Dems are in all reality handing the least-likely-to-be-reelected incumbent ever a serious shot at reelection because theatre so fucking isolated and stupid from the realities of every day people.
Socialism, communism- they will NEVER work and even mores well NEVER EVER win. WTF is wrong with some of these complete idiots in office?
Biden or Romney, run as a moderate and SAVE US PLEASE But the moderate candidate has people staying home on Election Day. I think only chance Democrats have is their nominee has passion to match the frenzied MAGAs The extreme candidate will make people vote for Trump. I would vote for Trump before I voted for socialist in disguise which is frankly how AOC is presenting herself. Their ideology would produce terrible effects for everyone whereas Trump is hurting a select unfortunate few. AOC is too young to legally run for a while anyways. The New Green Deal would destroy America though. I disagree that she is a socialist in disguise, she is a communist in disguise
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Shack
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Kamala is too much of a politician. The Breakfast Club interview where she acts like she always supported legalized marijuana but was laughing at the suggestion a few years ago is a little bit of a canary in the coalmine. Democrats are going to lose if they pick someone who's "sensible, but leaves me cold". They won't beat MAGA turnout with someone who the left doesn't trust and have to be talked into voting for
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Honestly, Beto is the best choice as he is both popular with the powerful millennial vote and is considerably moderate.
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i.hope
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i.hope
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Now a president can nullify the budgeting power vested in Congress by the Constitution. A spending bill passed by Congress and signed by the President is now a piece of trash and will not become law, because the President says so.
Sounds authoritarian and a bit lawless.
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lilmac
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checks and balances
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
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lilmac wrote: checks and balances The lack of.
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