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Hitokiri Battousai wrote:
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Not only one gender saw it, that's the point.

Every movie will have at least a few people from every segment seeing it. The law of large numbers. You're trying to argue that Prada became a hit by having support from both genders, when it has the some of the lowest male support of any movie in years. That's a logical contradiction.
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Libs said in an earlier post in another thread that a film can't become a hit without support from both genders, which is true.

We're not nitpicking what she says elsewhere. She may just be rationalising, thinking more men saw it than actually did, therefore raising the movie's esteem.

Is your whole point to defend that one statement? :lol:


Is your whole point to try and start something with me?


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Of course not. Look at your own statement:
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Did you take a survey otherwise there's little proof. When I saw it earlier tonight there were plenty of men with their wives or girlfriends. Dragged there or not, men saw the movie. If only men or women see a movie it can't become a huge hit, that's pretty much proven.

You circuitously called me stupid, basically. ;)

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Hitokiri Battousai wrote:
Of course not. Look at your own statement:
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Did you take a survey otherwise there's little proof. When I saw it earlier tonight there were plenty of men with their wives or girlfriends. Dragged there or not, men saw the movie. If only men or women see a movie it can't become a huge hit, that's pretty much proven.

You circuitously called me stupid, basically. ;)


Not really. Just asked for proof which is something a teacher would ask for in such a case. "Cite your sources" they'd say. :smile:


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By the way, there is no such thing as "starting something" online. Grow up. If you don't like box office enough to debate logically, then find somewhere better to go.

I have nothing more to add to the debate itself. See ya around.

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Hitokiri Battousai wrote:
By the way, there is no such thing as "starting something" online. Grow up. If you don't like box office enough to debate logically, then find somewhere better to go.

I have nothing more to add to the debate itself. See ya around.


Then what did you do? You "started something" by responding. You started an argument which seems to be the definition of "starting something." It's as simple as that. Plus, asking for proof seems pretty logical to me.


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Joe, um... seriously, you're making a big deal out of nothing, as usual. He didn't start an arguement, he added his opinion to your comment, just like you did to Libs' comment.


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Zingaling wrote:
Joe, um... seriously, you're making a big deal out of nothing, as usual. He didn't start an arguement, he added his opinion to your comment, just like you did to Libs' comment.


If you don't like me why don't you just ban me? I know you want to. Why else would you have thrown the "as usual" part of your statement. I didn't ask for his opinion, especially if it was going to be mean-spirited.


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Joe wrote:
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Joe, um... seriously, you're making a big deal out of nothing, as usual. He didn't start an arguement, he added his opinion to your comment, just like you did to Libs' comment.


If you don't like me why don't you just ban me? I know you want to. Why else would you have thrown the "as usual" part of your statement. I didn't ask for his opinion, especially if it was going to be mean-spirited.


Joe, his reply didn't really seem mean-spirited to me. This argument is just distracting at this point and not doing anything positive for the thread or anyone reading it. Hito decided to end the debate, so could you just let it go as nothing will come of it?


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DP07 wrote:
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Joe, um... seriously, you're making a big deal out of nothing, as usual. He didn't start an arguement, he added his opinion to your comment, just like you did to Libs' comment.


If you don't like me why don't you just ban me? I know you want to. Why else would you have thrown the "as usual" part of your statement. I didn't ask for his opinion, especially if it was going to be mean-spirited.


Joe, his reply didn't really seem mean-spirited to me. This argument is just distracting at this point and not doing anything positive for the thread or anyone reading it. Hito decided to end the debate, so could you just let it go as nothing will come of it?


It's giving you something to do isn't it? That's positive. It created a reaction. That's positive. That's what writing can be about. Generating a reaction in your readers. Whether it's bad or good is beside the point really.


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Dr. Lecter wrote:
Eh, Joe...what about this?

Less than 2% of this film's audiences consisted of hetero men who were not dragged into it by their wives/girlfriends...

And I am being generous here.


You live in Germany so what do you know :smile: J/K :smile:


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Ummm....I surely can generate reaction if I make a thread titled "Ku Klux Klan rocks!" or what not. That doesn't mean that it is a really smart thing to do.

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Joe wrote:
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Eh, Joe...what about this?

Less than 2% of this film's audiences consisted of hetero men who were not dragged into it by their wives/girlfriends...

And I am being generous here.


You live in Germany so what do you know :smile: J/K :smile:


I know that no matter how good looking (well...or not) Anne Hathaway is, I would never ever see Prada in theatres.

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
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Eh, Joe...what about this?

Less than 2% of this film's audiences consisted of hetero men who were not dragged into it by their wives/girlfriends...

And I am being generous here.


You live in Germany so what do you know :smile: J/K :smile:


I know that no matter how good looking (well...or not) Anne Hathaway is, I would never ever see Prada in theatres.


It was a joke, hence the J/K. :smile:


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Joe wrote:
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Eh, Joe...what about this?

Less than 2% of this film's audiences consisted of hetero men who were not dragged into it by their wives/girlfriends...

And I am being generous here.


You live in Germany so what do you know :smile: J/K :smile:


I know that no matter how good looking (well...or not) Anne Hathaway is, I would never ever see Prada in theatres.


It was a joke, hence the J/K. :smile:


I know...I was just saying.... :happy:

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Joe wrote:
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Joe, um... seriously, you're making a big deal out of nothing, as usual. He didn't start an arguement, he added his opinion to your comment, just like you did to Libs' comment.


If you don't like me why don't you just ban me? I know you want to. Why else would you have thrown the "as usual" part of your statement. I didn't ask for his opinion, especially if it was going to be mean-spirited.


Joe, his reply didn't really seem mean-spirited to me. This argument is just distracting at this point and not doing anything positive for the thread or anyone reading it. Hito decided to end the debate, so could you just let it go as nothing will come of it?


It's giving you something to do isn't it? That's positive. It created a reaction. That's positive. That's what writing can be about. Generating a reaction in your readers. Whether it's bad or good is beside the point really.


Well, you've often acted as if you were trying to get a reaction out of someone, so it doesn't surprise me to hear you admit that's your motive. I don't think people really appreciate it though, and I don't think simply getting a reaction is positive.


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Dr. Lecter wrote:
Ummm....I surely can generate reaction if I make a thread titled "Ku Klux Klan rocks!" or what not. That doesn't mean that it is a really smart thing to do.


What I did was nothing like creating such a mean-spirited thread. My writing wasn't mean-spirited or hateful towards a racial group or anything like that.


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Joe wrote:
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Ummm....I surely can generate reaction if I make a thread titled "Ku Klux Klan rocks!" or what not. That doesn't mean that it is a really smart thing to do.


What I did was nothing like creating such a mean-spirited thread. My writing wasn't mean-spirited or hateful towards a racial group or anything like that.


Yeah, but I was commenting on:

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That's what writing can be about. Generating a reaction in your readers. Whether it's bad or good is beside the point really.


And a thread like that one would definitely generate lots and lots of reaction, heh.

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
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Dr. Lecter wrote:
Ummm....I surely can generate reaction if I make a thread titled "Ku Klux Klan rocks!" or what not. That doesn't mean that it is a really smart thing to do.


What I did was nothing like creating such a mean-spirited thread. My writing wasn't mean-spirited or hateful towards a racial group or anything like that.


Yeah, but I was commenting on:

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That's what writing can be about. Generating a reaction in your readers. Whether it's bad or good is beside the point really.


And a thread like that one would definitely generate lots and lots of reaction, heh.


In fact, writing a book with that title would perhaps generate enough controversy to sell alot of copies, which would be successful by the definition I proposed earlier (which, in turn, was told to me in a Journalism class by a professor who had worked for The New York Times for 22 years before becoming a professor).


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DP07 wrote:
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Zingaling wrote:
Joe, um... seriously, you're making a big deal out of nothing, as usual. He didn't start an arguement, he added his opinion to your comment, just like you did to Libs' comment.


If you don't like me why don't you just ban me? I know you want to. Why else would you have thrown the "as usual" part of your statement. I didn't ask for his opinion, especially if it was going to be mean-spirited.


Joe, his reply didn't really seem mean-spirited to me. This argument is just distracting at this point and not doing anything positive for the thread or anyone reading it. Hito decided to end the debate, so could you just let it go as nothing will come of it?


It's giving you something to do isn't it? That's positive. It created a reaction. That's positive. That's what writing can be about. Generating a reaction in your readers. Whether it's bad or good is beside the point really.


Well, you've often acted as if you were trying to get a reaction out of someone, so it doesn't surprise me to hear you admit that's your motive. I don't think people really appreciate it though, and I don't think simply getting a reaction is positive.


Now you know and can act accordingly :smile:


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Joe wrote:
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Joe, um... seriously, you're making a big deal out of nothing, as usual. He didn't start an arguement, he added his opinion to your comment, just like you did to Libs' comment.


If you don't like me why don't you just ban me? I know you want to. Why else would you have thrown the "as usual" part of your statement. I didn't ask for his opinion, especially if it was going to be mean-spirited.


And Libs didn't ask for your opinion. Yet you gave it. Don't be hypocritical and think that you can respond to anyone and someone else can't respond to you in return.


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Joe wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
Joe wrote:
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Ummm....I surely can generate reaction if I make a thread titled "Ku Klux Klan rocks!" or what not. That doesn't mean that it is a really smart thing to do.


What I did was nothing like creating such a mean-spirited thread. My writing wasn't mean-spirited or hateful towards a racial group or anything like that.


Yeah, but I was commenting on:

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That's what writing can be about. Generating a reaction in your readers. Whether it's bad or good is beside the point really.


And a thread like that one would definitely generate lots and lots of reaction, heh.


In fact, writing a book with that title would perhaps generate enough controversy to sell alot of copies, which would be successful by the definition I proposed earlier (which, in turn, was told to me in a Journalism class by a professor who had worked for The New York Times for 22 years before becoming a professor).


I could also be successful if I become a drug lord. Doesn't mean I should do that. Or is nothing sacred enough when it's about success? ;)

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Zingaling wrote:
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Joe, um... seriously, you're making a big deal out of nothing, as usual. He didn't start an arguement, he added his opinion to your comment, just like you did to Libs' comment.


If you don't like me why don't you just ban me? I know you want to. Why else would you have thrown the "as usual" part of your statement. I didn't ask for his opinion, especially if it was going to be mean-spirited.


And Libs didn't ask for your opinion. Yet you gave it. Don't be hypocritical and think that you can respond to anyone and someone else can't respond to you in return.


You didn't respond to the first two sentences of my post.


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Dr. Lecter wrote:
Joe wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
Joe wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
Ummm....I surely can generate reaction if I make a thread titled "Ku Klux Klan rocks!" or what not. That doesn't mean that it is a really smart thing to do.


What I did was nothing like creating such a mean-spirited thread. My writing wasn't mean-spirited or hateful towards a racial group or anything like that.


Yeah, but I was commenting on:

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That's what writing can be about. Generating a reaction in your readers. Whether it's bad or good is beside the point really.


And a thread like that one would definitely generate lots and lots of reaction, heh.


In fact, writing a book with that title would perhaps generate enough controversy to sell alot of copies, which would be successful by the definition I proposed earlier (which, in turn, was told to me in a Journalism class by a professor who had worked for The New York Times for 22 years before becoming a professor).


I could also be successful if I become a drug lord. Doesn't mean I should do that. Or is nothing sacred enough when it's about success? ;)


I don't care what you do to become successful as long as you don't interfere with my life. So go ahead and become a drug lord :smile:

Maybe Hollywood would make a movie about you as the real Tony Montana. :smile:


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Joe wrote:
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Joe wrote:
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Joe, um... seriously, you're making a big deal out of nothing, as usual. He didn't start an arguement, he added his opinion to your comment, just like you did to Libs' comment.


If you don't like me why don't you just ban me? I know you want to. Why else would you have thrown the "as usual" part of your statement. I didn't ask for his opinion, especially if it was going to be mean-spirited.


And Libs didn't ask for your opinion. Yet you gave it. Don't be hypocritical and think that you can respond to anyone and someone else can't respond to you in return.


You didn't respond to the first two sentences of my post.


And now you're avoiding the question at hand because you know that you're wrong about it.

But, to answer the rest of your post, I never said I didn't like you. I never said I wanted you banned. Your assumption that "I want to" is dead wrong. I threw the "as usual" part in because, well... it was "as usual."


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Zingaling wrote:
Joe wrote:
Zingaling wrote:
Joe wrote:
Zingaling wrote:
Joe, um... seriously, you're making a big deal out of nothing, as usual. He didn't start an arguement, he added his opinion to your comment, just like you did to Libs' comment.


If you don't like me why don't you just ban me? I know you want to. Why else would you have thrown the "as usual" part of your statement. I didn't ask for his opinion, especially if it was going to be mean-spirited.


And Libs didn't ask for your opinion. Yet you gave it. Don't be hypocritical and think that you can respond to anyone and someone else can't respond to you in return.


You didn't respond to the first two sentences of my post.


And now you're avoiding the question at hand because you know that you're wrong about it.

But, to answer the rest of your post, I never said I didn't like you. I never said I wanted you banned. Your assumption that "I want to" is dead wrong. I threw the "as usual" part in because, well... it was "as usual."


What if I know I'm wrong but still don't care that I'm wrong? It's not like this board is all that important to anyone's life. It's just one hobby among many, as it should be. It's not like school where being wrong results in a bad/unsatisfactory grade, something that does matter. And why wouldn't you want me banned? It's not like it would be any skin off your back (to use a cliche).


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