zwackerm wrote:
The film’s casting is very diverse, but that has nothing to do with the storyline whatsoever. And all the actors are good in their roles.
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| Author: | Groucho [ Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Fragile white male egos ruin Last Jedi's RT score |
Sad puppies strike again. Last Jedi has a 93% rating on Rotten Tomatoes but there is a concentrated right-wing effort to discredit it so the audience score is rotten (57%). There's really no other way to explain just a discrepancy, and from my Facebook friends (who are NOT Trump babies) I see it's a great film. (Been too sick to leave the house the last few days so haven't seen it yet). "Wah, wah! Yes, 99% of all adventure films have white male heroes, but this one doesn't! We're not happy unless it's 100%!" Here are some of the actual "reviews" these poor butthurt snowflakes posted: "This movie is a slew of leftist garbage from start to finish." "I feel like the entire movie was written to pander to the liberal media that would be responsible for the reviews." "And let me conclude with get your political progressive ideas out of entertainment. Yes we notice EVERY leader EVERY major character etc is a WOMAN." "Full of SJW garbage." "This wasn't a movie, it was a sermon on social justice and a hate letter to white dudes who loved the original trilogy." "Virtue signalling leftist narrative meets capitalizing on fans' love of a few movies from forty years ago." "Identity politics and social justice arrive in the galaxy far far away. " |
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| Author: | David [ Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:54 pm ] |
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Ah, well. |
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| Author: | nghtvsn [ Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:00 pm ] |
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I don't know if this is a "right wing" effort but I watched a video this morning of a guy who literally cried tears at the trailers of TFA because SW meant so much to him in some personal way and he was quite annoyed at a certain issue with Rey and Luke though he did like the film up till that last act. As a trumpbot myself, I really don't see any SJW issues in this film. So there is a bit more focus on a variety of female characters. So what. I like that while still maintaining a balance with a variety of lead male characters and Kylo is all front and center to me in this chapter. The only qualm I had was with a certain issue with Leia. |
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| Author: | Rev [ Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:37 pm ] |
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Ha! Fuck’em! |
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| Author: | Algren [ Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:34 pm ] |
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Eh, it's just the opposite side of the same coin. Where minorities cry out on social media when awards go to white people or Asian characters get cast by white actors, whites cry out when films pander to the SJW crowd. It's all very exhausting. People will give a film the grade they feel is right, and it really doesn't matter what their reasons are. Does anyone care about RT's Audience score anyway? I can't say I've ever looked at it. |
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| Author: | Jmart [ Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:39 pm ] |
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There’s that and the film is divisive. I guess it had to get political at some point. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:42 pm ] |
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The film’s casting is very diverse, but that has nothing to do with the storyline whatsoever. And all the actors are good in their roles. |
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| Author: | Rev [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:33 am ] |
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zwackerm wrote: The film’s casting is very diverse, but that has nothing to do with the storyline whatsoever. And all the actors are good in their roles.
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| Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:45 am ] |
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Eh, I disagree. I think its just nerds. |
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| Author: | tree and a half [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:51 am ] |
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Groucho wrote: Last Jedi has a 93% rating on Rotten Tomatoes but there is a concentrated right-wing effort to discredit it so the audience score is rotten (57%). There's really no other way to explain just a discrepancy, and from my Facebook friends (who are NOT Trump babies) I see it's a great film. (Been too sick to leave the house the last few days so haven't seen it yet). That is quite the statement. "from my Facebook friends... I see it's a great film.... [I] haven't seen it yet." "There's really no other way to explain [such] a discrepancy" Given the biases of 'professional' critics and Rotten Tomatoes dubious algorithm, the critics rating on any film should be examined with at least as much skepticism. I look forward to reading Groucho's actual review of The Last Jedi. _____________________________________ Interestingly, Groucho is on the record as saying: Groucho wrote: My favorites are: 1. Empire 2. New Hope 3. Jedi That's all. There are no other Star Wars movies. ...and he never ended up posting a review of The Force Awakens.) |
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| Author: | Jmart [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:54 am ] |
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Eh, I disagree. I think its just nerds. While I think what Groucho posted is a branch of what’s happening, the root is indeed the angry nerds. They’re upset that their Spoiler: show |
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| Author: | nghtvsn [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:20 am ] |
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Spoiler: show |
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| Author: | Jmart [ Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:39 am ] |
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Except Jedi aren’t evil. She also will be the last Jedi considering she’ll probably defeat Kylo, considering millennia of storytelling, although that might not be true since there will be X-XII. And there’s the students Kylo took with him when he burnt the temple down. They’re somewhere. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:12 am ] |
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Yeah, I think this could be called "jumping to conclusions" or "confirmation bias" , considering I've seen a lot of poor reviews of the film. |
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| Author: | Groucho [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:08 am ] |
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They did the same thing to my writer friend Chuck Wendig who wrote a Star Wars novel and had a gay couple in it -- ruined his Amazon score with bad reviews, most of which were clearly cut and pasted, decrying the book's "social justice warrior" attitude. (Mind you, the "gay couple" reference was ONE LINE where someone referenced their husband.) Are there legitimate criticisms to be made of the film? Of course -- can't think of a film that doesn't have someone who doesn't like it for reasonable reasons. But these fragile male egos don't care about that stuff. If it doesn't promote their backwards world view, then they have to destroy it. |
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| Author: | Groucho [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:11 am ] |
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tree and a half wrote: I look forward to reading Groucho's actual review of The Last Jedi. _____________________________________ Interestingly, Groucho is on the record as saying: Groucho wrote: My favorites are: 1. Empire 2. New Hope 3. Jedi That's all. There are no other Star Wars movies. ...and he never ended up posting a review of The Force Awakens.) I posted that when there were only these three and the prequels, before Disney took over! I rarely post reviews, as you guys know, although I did complain about Force Awakens being too much of New Hope revisited but what a great improvement over the prequels. I enjoyed Rogue One quite a bit. My wife was sick for about a week and then I caught it, so we're way behind at going to the movies -- still haven't seen Thor or Coco yet either... |
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| Author: | Groucho [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:18 am ] |
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Eh, I disagree. I think its just nerds. Some bad reviews clearly are. That always happens. They're like Comic Book Guy who says "Worst Film Ever. I'm only going to watch it four more times." But there is a concentrated effort by the Sad Puppies and other alt-right groups to destroy media that doesn't fit their nazi-like view of the world. They did it with fiction by attacking the Hugo Awards, they did it at Dragoncon, they now they've done it to Star Wars. It's pretty obvious, actually, because it fits the pattern. Yes, they're nerds but they're the nazi nerds. |
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| Author: | Groucho [ Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:12 pm ] |
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The alt-right Trumper behind the thing admitted how he used bots to flood the Rotten Tomatoes site because men need to be reinstalled as rulers of society. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ro ... mg00000003 |
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| Author: | tree and a half [ Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:29 am ] |
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Eh, I disagree. I think its just nerds. Based on the collapse at the box office, it's the general audience that is really ruining Last Jedi's RT score. |
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| Author: | Groucho [ Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:05 pm ] |
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tree and a half wrote: Flava'd vs The World wrote: Eh, I disagree. I think its just nerds. Based on the collapse at the box office, it's the general audience that is really ruining Last Jedi's RT score. Is it really a collapse? This was a top heavy film with everyone wanting to see it the first week, so of course it drops a lot after that. It's still on the way to being the #1 film of 2017. That's hardly a failure in anyone's books. Sure, among the die-hard fans who are also the loudest on the internet, it may be not as successful, but they're not the majority of film-goers. |
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| Author: | neo_wolf [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:53 am ] |
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I loved the scenes with Luke, Rey and Ben but everything else was mediocre, its not a very good film. |
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| Author: | tree and a half [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:43 am ] |
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Groucho wrote: hardly a failure in anyone's books WOKJ's TLJ prediction thread. |
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| Author: | FILMO [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:05 pm ] |
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Fuck I miss the times where Star Wars was about: Fight between good and evil Lightsabres Stuff beeing blown up Mystery Space Bounty Hunters They should name Part 9 : Politically Correct and the Uprising of the Offended. This way we will have also Episode 10-12 on the road Now stop the pussy begging! |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:21 am ] |
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How was this politically correct? |
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| Author: | Shack [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:11 am ] |
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