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MadGez wrote:

I guess Harry Knowles, Devin Faracci and the Honest Trailers guy couldn't be happier with the timing of the Weinstein revelation!

My facebook feed is almost 80% articles on Harvey (with pics of his ugly mug) or of celebrities publicly denouncing him or opening up about being harassed/abused by him.

Hopefully this opens the flood gates and more deviants are outed because there is plenty worse going on than Harvey's transgressions!

Apparently he is blaming his brother Bob for leaking the scandal.

Also, interesting to see articles of Hollywood in-jokes about Harvey in recent years (ie. Seth McFarlane at one of the awards shows). Most people did indeed know (about some of his behavior at least).

BK wrote:

MadGez wrote:

Something happen with those guys?

No one should be overshadowed, if guilty all should go to jail.

Jedi Master Carr wrote:

I am pretty tired of it too. I don't even consider this a top 10 news story. We have so many other problems right now between what ever the fuck Trump is doing to all the hurricanes that have devastated the coast.

Barrabás wrote:

No one has accused Harvey of doing anything illegal as far as I know. Asking people you're the boss of to give you massages and watch you shower may be inappropriate and gross, but it's not illegal.

Barrabás wrote:

BK wrote:

MadGez wrote:

Something happen with those guys?

No one should be overshadowed, if guilty all should go to jail.

No one has accused Harvey of doing anything illegal as far as I know. Asking people you're the boss of to give you massages and watch you shower may be inappropriate and gross, but it's not illegal.

FILMO wrote:

Eh what now?

Did he rape those women

or

did these women sleep with him to boost their careers?

lesterg wrote:

Barrabás wrote:

No one has accused Harvey of doing anything illegal as far as I know. Asking people you're the boss of to give you massages and watch you shower may be inappropriate and gross, but it's not illegal.

What you described is illegal. It’s not necessarily a crime he can be arrested for, but it’s illegal as it relates to American employment laws.

Sexual assault, false imprisonment and rape, which Weinstein has been accused of, are also illegal.

Algren wrote:

Oh fuck it then. Let's let all the skanky whores and money-grabbing, attention-loving bitches that don't have an ounce of talent and this is their only way to get noticed just tell all the lies they want. Let's believe everything anyone says and let's condemn everyone because we actually want the human race to die out. Ugly or fat men are not allowed to flirt or hit on girls. If they do, they are FUCKING RAPIST CREEPS and they should be outed because.

lesterg wrote:

Sure, that's a concern - although I haven't seen a lot of evidence that's happening. For all the "attention" you think these women crave, how much of it is supportive vs people calling them lying "skanky whores and money-grabbing, attention-loving bitches"?

Is there a single case of a celebrity whose career was destroyed over fake accusations? I seriously can't think of a single one.

Algren wrote:

Yes, which I already said is totally what should happen. Weinstein is a rapist and that's not acceptable. What I am saying is that this culture can easily get out of hand, and everyone will now be looking at their history trying to think of any encounter where a male celebrity was interested in them and calling them out on social media because it's so easy to do so in order to get a bit of limelight. That's what I hope doesn't happen, but it seems the wheels are already in motion.

Author:	BK [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:57 pm ]
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MadGez wrote: I guess Harry Knowles, Devin Faracci and the Honest Trailers guy couldn't be happier with the timing of the Weinstein revelation! My facebook feed is almost 80% articles on Harvey (with pics of his ugly mug) or of celebrities publicly denouncing him or opening up about being harassed/abused by him. Hopefully this opens the flood gates and more deviants are outed because there is plenty worse going on than Harvey's transgressions! Apparently he is blaming his brother Bob for leaking the scandal. Also, interesting to see articles of Hollywood in-jokes about Harvey in recent years (ie. Seth McFarlane at one of the awards shows). Most people did indeed know (about some of his behavior at least). Something happen with those guys? No one should be overshadowed, if guilty all should go to jail.

Author:	Jedi Master Carr [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:39 am ]
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I am pretty tired of it too. I don't even consider this a top 10 news story. We have so many other problems right now between what ever the fuck Trump is doing to all the hurricanes that have devastated the coast.

Author:	Barrabás [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:01 am ]
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BK wrote: MadGez wrote: I guess Harry Knowles, Devin Faracci and the Honest Trailers guy couldn't be happier with the timing of the Weinstein revelation! My facebook feed is almost 80% articles on Harvey (with pics of his ugly mug) or of celebrities publicly denouncing him or opening up about being harassed/abused by him. Hopefully this opens the flood gates and more deviants are outed because there is plenty worse going on than Harvey's transgressions! Apparently he is blaming his brother Bob for leaking the scandal. Also, interesting to see articles of Hollywood in-jokes about Harvey in recent years (ie. Seth McFarlane at one of the awards shows). Most people did indeed know (about some of his behavior at least). Something happen with those guys? No one should be overshadowed, if guilty all should go to jail. No one has accused Harvey of doing anything illegal as far as I know. Asking people you're the boss of to give you massages and watch you shower may be inappropriate and gross, but it's not illegal.

Author:	stuffp [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:50 am ]
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Jedi Master Carr wrote: I am pretty tired of it too. I don't even consider this a top 10 news story. We have so many other problems right now between what ever the fuck Trump is doing to all the hurricanes that have devastated the coast. It even took everyone's mind on this forum away to create a Blade Runner 2049 WWW thread.

Author:	Algren [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:11 am ]
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Rose McGowan has been suspended from Twitter for 12 hours.

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Author:	lesterg [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:10 am ]
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Barrabás wrote: No one has accused Harvey of doing anything illegal as far as I know. Asking people you're the boss of to give you massages and watch you shower may be inappropriate and gross, but it's not illegal. What you described is illegal. It’s not necessarily a crime he can be arrested for, but it’s illegal as it relates to American employment laws. Sexual assault, false imprisonment and rape, which Weinstein has been accused of, are also illegal.

Author:	Algren [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:59 am ]
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There's only one thing worse than Harvey Weinstein at this time, and that's kiddie fiddlers.

Author:	lesterg [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:08 am ]
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Harvey will be fine. He'll have his pick of talent willing to sign on to The Harvey Weinstein Company projects, like the master of horror, Victor Salva!

Author:	FILMO [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:18 am ]
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Eh what now? Did he rape those women or did these women sleep with him to boost their careers?

Author:	Jiffy [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:20 am ]
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Barrabás wrote: BK wrote: MadGez wrote: I guess Harry Knowles, Devin Faracci and the Honest Trailers guy couldn't be happier with the timing of the Weinstein revelation! My facebook feed is almost 80% articles on Harvey (with pics of his ugly mug) or of celebrities publicly denouncing him or opening up about being harassed/abused by him. Hopefully this opens the flood gates and more deviants are outed because there is plenty worse going on than Harvey's transgressions! Apparently he is blaming his brother Bob for leaking the scandal. Also, interesting to see articles of Hollywood in-jokes about Harvey in recent years (ie. Seth McFarlane at one of the awards shows). Most people did indeed know (about some of his behavior at least). Something happen with those guys? No one should be overshadowed, if guilty all should go to jail. No one has accused Harvey of doing anything illegal as far as I know. Asking people you're the boss of to give you massages and watch you shower may be inappropriate and gross, but it's not illegal. Read this article and listen to the embedded audio clip contained therein: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... ir-stories

Author:	lesterg [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:36 am ]
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FILMO wrote: Eh what now? Did he rape those women or did these women sleep with him to boost their careers? There are undoubtedly women who slept with him to boost their careers. But that's not illegal nor are there any indications that those are the people accusing him of rape.

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:00 pm ]
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Harvey being a perverted douche is no surprise. The best part of this story is the reactions to the reactions though. Ben Affleck: "This was horrible" Internet: "Well heres a video of you grabbing Hilary Burton's tit. And who is Casey harassing these days?"

Author:	lesterg [ Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:19 pm ]
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TWC is getting an infusion of cash and will probably end up selling some or most of its assets to some investment firm: http://deadline.com/2017/10/weinstein-c ... 202189063/ What's interesting is that this is the same firm that bought Miramax from Disney. They sold Miramax themselves a couple of years ago.

Author:	Groucho [ Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:17 pm ]
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lesterg wrote: Barrabás wrote: No one has accused Harvey of doing anything illegal as far as I know. Asking people you're the boss of to give you massages and watch you shower may be inappropriate and gross, but it's not illegal. What you described is illegal. It’s not necessarily a crime he can be arrested for, but it’s illegal as it relates to American employment laws. Sexual assault, false imprisonment and rape, which Weinstein has been accused of, are also illegal. Yep. It's illegal, all right.

Author:	Algren [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:23 am ]
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I am also glad that people that did or do shitty things are getting exposed. But what I worry about is that it may go too far. I believe the culture of shaming someone and ruining someone's reputation based on newfound feminism is empowering. And if that's aimed at bad people, then it's all good. But I wouldn't like it to affect innocent behaviour such as a man in power hitting on a woman, because that is still allowed. Laws of attraction should never be shamed. But I feel it may be close because the potential rewards for the victim (empowerment, attention) and ease of creating a stir outweigh any harmful consequences, especially when in modern society (aided by a media that will literally run any story so long as they can get clicks) people like to feel victimized and every accusation against a man will instantly resort to a stain on his entire legacy, even with no proof. The accusation is enough, and that is the type of power that should not be blindly given to victims. I mean, social media is great for getting stories like this out there, and that's great when it's legit, but what if it's false or exaggerated or playing the system. Because these days the culture that everyone is guilty, and has their reputation ruined, before any body has even had the chance to determine the facts. In Harvey's case, he's fucked because so many women have come out there's no way they're wrong about him, but that won't be the case for all, and there will be countless cases moving forward of smear campaigns against males just because they can, so easily, with the press of a few keys.

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Author:	Mister Ecks [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:07 am ]
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I said it about Cosby and it's true about Weinstein: I don't know how much traction these stories get outside the age of social media. Jesus, the Cosby story floated for almost a decade before it gained traction. I'm glad shitty people doing shitty things are finally getting caught and dealt with accordingly.

Author:	lesterg [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:56 pm ]
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I keep hearing about how men's careers have been destroyed by false accusations but then I see Casey Affleck signing on to work with Alfonso Cuaron, Bill O'Reilly getting a new show, etc. and realize that's mostly bullshit. Barring an arrest or mountains of accusers most people can weather it.

Author:	Algren [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:21 pm ]
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Oh fuck it then. Let's let all the skanky whores and money-grabbing, attention-loving bitches that don't have an ounce of talent and this is their only way to get noticed just tell all the lies they want. Let's believe everything anyone says and let's condemn everyone because we actually want the human race to die out. Ugly or fat men are not allowed to flirt or hit on girls. If they do, they are FUCKING RAPIST CREEPS and they should be outed because. And I wouldn't say Casey is exactly out of the woods. What does everyone think about when they see or hear Casey Affleck? Actor, then wife beater (or whatever he did). But I wasn't even referring to anyone in particular. I have no idea about Affleck's scandal.

Author:	lesterg [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:04 pm ]
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Algren wrote: Oh fuck it then. Let's let all the skanky whores and money-grabbing, attention-loving bitches that don't have an ounce of talent and this is their only way to get noticed just tell all the lies they want. Let's believe everything anyone says and let's condemn everyone because we actually want the human race to die out. Ugly or fat men are not allowed to flirt or hit on girls. If they do, they are FUCKING RAPIST CREEPS and they should be outed because. First off: what? Second, if this is still about Weinstein and not something personal I do not fully understand: Flirting and/or hitting on girls is normal behavior. Threatening employees or perspective employees that they will not be employed without giving into demands for sex and outright raping women is not. He's being accused of being a rapist creep because he's been accused of actually raping people.

Author:	Algren [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:39 pm ]
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Yes, which I already said is totally what should happen. Weinstein is a rapist and that's not acceptable. What I am saying is that this culture can easily get out of hand, and everyone will now be looking at their history trying to think of any encounter where a male celebrity was interested in them and calling them out on social media because it's so easy to do so in order to get a bit of limelight. That's what I hope doesn't happen, but it seems the wheels are already in motion.

Author:	lesterg [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:10 am ]
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Sure, that's a concern - although I haven't seen a lot of evidence that's happening. For all the "attention" you think these women crave, how much of it is supportive vs people calling them lying "skanky whores and money-grabbing, attention-loving bitches"? Is there a single case of a celebrity whose career was destroyed over fake accusations? I seriously can't think of a single one.

Author:	Algren [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:21 pm ]
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Good. Let's hope it stays like that. But it's not about destroying careers. It's more about smearing a person's reputation. You can still work afterwards, but you'll always have this attached to your name, like Affleck.

Author:	Thegun [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:47 pm ]
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lesterg wrote: Sure, that's a concern - although I haven't seen a lot of evidence that's happening. For all the "attention" you think these women crave, how much of it is supportive vs people calling them lying "skanky whores and money-grabbing, attention-loving bitches"? Is there a single case of a celebrity whose career was destroyed over fake accusations? I seriously can't think of a single one. Rod Sterling, Anyone involved with an Ashcan. Today, it's so hard to sift from what is true an what is rumored. But there are cases. Tom Cruise def took a hit for a few years. Woody Allen too

Author:	Jedi Master Carr [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:06 pm ]
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Cruise took a hit because he jumped on a couch and Scientology. I don't think he ever had an harassment charges.

Author:	i.hope [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:46 pm ]
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Algren wrote: Yes, which I already said is totally what should happen. Weinstein is a rapist and that's not acceptable. What I am saying is that this culture can easily get out of hand, and everyone will now be looking at their history trying to think of any encounter where a male celebrity was interested in them and calling them out on social media because it's so easy to do so in order to get a bit of limelight. That's what I hope doesn't happen, but it seems the wheels are already in motion. Well, the culture of cover-ups and silence got out of hand for years. Now the culture of speaking up and empathy has grown in response. The trend looks normal to me. Sure people could use a little more skepticism and a deeper understanding in regards to the things said by both the accusers and the accused.