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Author: | David [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
![]() Quote: A moviegoer lost his life inside a Pasco County theater Monday afternoon after a dispute over texting with a retired police officer. According to the sheriff's office, the dispute happened before the 1:20 showing of 'Lone Survivor' had even gotten underway at the Cobb CineBistro at Grove 16 complex on Wesley Grove Blvd. Investigators say two couples had gotten into an argument over noise. "The victim was on his cell phone; he was texting. We believe he was making some kind of noise. This noise led to an altercation between the suspect and the victim," Sheriff Chris Nocco explained. A witness recalled seeing the agitated man -- later identified by deputies as Curtis Reeves -- get up and leave in an apparent attempt to find a manager. When he came back alone, the argument escalated. Charles Cummings told FOX 13 he heard the victim say he was texting his 3-year-old daughter before Reeves pulled out a pistol. "Their voices start going up, there seems to be a confrontation, somebody throws popcorn, then bang, he was shot," said Cummings, who was there to celebrate his birthday. "I heard the victim say, 'I can't believe...,' then he fell on us." "I asked if the guy was OK, and he started gurgling blood and then fell," recalled Cummings' son, who said he ran to call 911. Both the man, identified by deputies as Chad Oulson, and his wife Nicole were struck by the single shot. Oulson, 43, was hit in the chest and died, while Nicole was hit in the hand when she put her hand up in front of her husband. She suffered non-life-threatening injuries. An off-duty Sumter County deputy inside the theater was able to grab the gun and detain Reeves until deputies arrived, the sheriff added. Reeves, a 71-year-old retired Tampa police officer, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder. A 2005 Tampa Bay Times article also described him as a former director of security for Busch Gardens. Moments after he was named as the suspect, Tampa police issued a statement saying Reeves had retired back in 1993 as a captain. "He was instrumental in establishing the department's first Tactical Response Team," the statement explained. "We are not aware of any contact with the department since his departure more than 20 years ago." Nocco said his detectives considered if this could be a 'stand your ground' case but decided the criteria did not apply. "It's absolutely crazy it would rise to this level over somebody just texting in a movie theater," he offered. "I can't believe people would bring a gun to a movie," added Cummings, a Marine who served in Vietnam. "I can't believe they would argue and fight and shoot one another over popcorn or even a cell phone." http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2443 ... ie-theater |
Author: | jmovies [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
lone death |
Author: | David [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
You die for your common movie-going courtesy if you want. I am going to live for mine. |
Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
Glad this whole stand your ground thing is working out. Man Florida is just such a fine place to live, what with all the craziness and low income and convict governor. Paradise, a great place to avoid those taxes. |
Author: | Jedi Master Carr [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
Well at least he will go to jail for doing it. It should have never escalated to that, just leave it to the manager. |
Author: | nghtvsn [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
Um. This was during PREVIEWS! During the film...maybe, but PREVIEWS...c'mon MAN. THINK. |
Author: | Jedi Master Carr [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
Even during the film, he doesn't have the right to shoot an unarmed man. What could he have done pummeled him to death with popcorn? |
Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
Popcorn kernel shells can get easily lodge in between ones teeth, basic stand your ground. |
Author: | Rev [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
FL is fucked up....living there. Better to just vayca |
Author: | Algren [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
The USA is a fucked up society. |
Author: | Caius [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Glad this whole stand your ground thing is working out. Man Florida is just such a fine place to live, what with all the craziness and low income and convict governor. Paradise, a great place to avoid those taxes. What does Florida's stand your ground law have to do with anything? The man was charged with second degree murder. He may present evidence that he was acting in self-defense or some other mitigating factor(s), but people do that in all states and regardless of any sort of stand your ground type of doctrine. I hope he goes to jail and the prisoners find out his background. |
Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
I live in Florida, and have for over two years now, and fuck Florida. I'll get any chance I get to bash this backwater state. |
Author: | Algren [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
FLORIDA SUCKS ASS. |
Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
You see? Algren understands |
Author: | Jedi Master Carr [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
the stand your ground law is bullshit. There is no reason for it when you have self defense laws. I don't think it will come up in this case and self defense is a laugh when the other guy is unarmed and didn't hit him. The only chance this guy has is to try to plead some sort of insanity. |
Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
In the article, there is mention of the stand your ground law Quote: Nocco said his detectives considered if this could be a 'stand your ground' case but decided the criteria did not apply. Obviously it won't be taken seriously, but this even being considered is twistedly hilarious |
Author: | Caius [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: In the article, there is mention of the stand your ground law Quote: Nocco said his detectives considered if this could be a 'stand your ground' case but decided the criteria did not apply. Obviously it won't be taken seriously, but this even being considered is twistedly hilarious Before charging someone and potentially putting them in jail for a very long time, I would hope that many things, including far fetched things, would be considered (you obviously considered it). I don't think it out of the ordinary, in this fact pattern, for this law to be considered. You may not like the law, but it is not the officer's job to decide what laws to enforce and which to not. |
Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
Caius wrote: You may not like the law, but it is not the officer's job to decide what laws to enforce and which to not. Oh I agree, and that's why I think the George Zimmerman trial was called right, the law is the law, and that's why I think the Stand Your Ground Law is fucked up. Because this is even being considered. On basic self-defense laws, the possibility would be so far-fetched, it would not even be mentioned in a news article. But with the Stand Your Ground Law, as a lawyer, you stand a better chance of winning a defense trial. It is far more of a grey area when all you have to do is convince the judge (or the jury depending on how the lawyers want to settle the case if it sees the light of court, the former being more common) that the suspect was threatened in some way. With the suspect being a former and respect police officer, the lawyers could have gotten away with this if they had the right judge with a Stand Your Ground defense. With the media attention this got, that probably won't happen. It's cynical, but hey, Florida's a fucked up state. |
Author: | MadGez [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Not everyone in Florida theatre survives Lone Survivor |
The cunt should rot in jail. What a disgusting thing to do over a minor inconvenience. |
Author: | Bradley Witherberry [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:56 am ] |
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