I think that's not what he meant, heh.

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I have no idea what that means.

You guys really have some crazy-ass misconceptions about the so-called snobs. You want to believe we think one way, that we can't have fun, or something. We sit in our ivory tower watching French films and would never dream of engaging with the entertainments of the proletariat. Whatever.

I thought the first Pirates movie was terrific, if a bit too long in the tooth. Minor complaint.

Um...no those are all your assumptions of what you think I think.

I was saying like before that it's not right to try to make certain films out to automatically be better.

You have a problem with me liking POTC 2 or that it shouldn't be considered as worthy as other films. Explain why then.

It's not your type of movie because you would have a tendency not to like it. Yeah, you might have liked POTC, but then people overwhelmingly did. Very few didn't. I'm pretty sure you didn't like it quite as much as the mainstream.

I would never think that people should or would automatically always like or dislike films from certain genres. People do though have tendencies in what they prefer based entirely on taste.

That's besides the point though of taking things related to taste and associating them with superiority.

I mean I don't have anything against Indie films. I love Being John Malkovich, The House of Yes and others. I'd probably prefer it if big movies had more indie elements. But this is the way the industry is now.

It has a lot to do with marketing and other things that are not necessarily related to the movies themselves. I do wonder how well different types of major films could do, but then I'm also not talking about all the paramount duds in 2006 and earlier (which were less mainstream, didn't do well, and didn't look interesting IMO.)

we should accept Christian even though I doubt he ever applies/knows we exist!
Christian!

Yeah, we might be watching Italian films instead! Plus our tower might be comprised of a cheap vinyl siding exterior and an interior of linoleum and formica rather than of ivory (its a shame, really). But aside from that, its true that everyone is wrong, we do have fun, but they are right that we only have fun when the movie is actually good.



Great example, everyone knows how much I loved the first Pirates as well. Its what got me checking box office stats way back in the day at BOM. I wanted it to make 300 million (and it deserved to). Too bad they couldn't leave good enough alone, though...

What makes something 'actually good'? How does that differ from entertaining? Because I'm pretty sure that POTC was built to be entertaining.

I don't think many people liked the sequel as much, but WOM wasn't that much worse (still like 10th at yahoo for its year). I actually personally liked it better than the first (bigger, bigger ideas, better action sequences, and a more interesting plot).

I think that 'snobs' didn't like the sequel as much because it was another Bruckheimer assault on traditional filmmaking. The original's story and ideas were more conventional. But I don't see how that makes it less worthy.

I truly don't think films like this should be expected to leave good enough alone.

In all seriousness, the whole snob clique has really given me an amount of disgust in yoshue, trixster, makeshift and dolce.

They remind me of a clique of inner city youth who realize they have power-in-numbers and then go forth and abuse it horribly by shooting up the neighborhood.

I'm all for random acts of snobbery, but what I've seen here just pains me to no end.

We're doing it intentionally in this thread in order to reinforce the snob stereotype. I thought that was obvious. Am I missing something?

1. That the "joke" was over on the first page.

It's painfully obvious, but it's not funny or endearing.

Don't choke on all that hyperbole there.

Party pooper

Top 10 of 2008
1. The Flight of the Red Balloon (Hou Hsiao-Hsien)
2. Hunger (Steve McQueen)
3. Ballast (Lance Hammer)
4. A Christmas Tale (Arnaud Desplechin)
5. Silent Light (Carlos Reygadas)
6. Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman)
7. Still Life (Jia Zhangke)
8. Happy-Go-Lucky (Mike Leigh)
9. Man On Wire (James Marsh)

Top 5 of All-Time
1. Cries and Whispers (Ingmar Bergman, 1972)
2. Ikiru (Akira Kurosawa, 1950)
3. 8½ (Federico Fellini, 1963)
4. Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)
5. The Magnificent Ambersons (Orson Welles, 1942)

Top 5 Directors
1. Ingmar Bergman
2. Charles Laughton
3. Kenji Mizoguchi
4. Carl Theodor Dreyer
5. Max Ophüls

Power in numbers?

I think it's more power in the perception that people would be afraid to say they love a movie like POTC 2 that isn't considered respectable.

It's sort of done for social status. I don't agree with specific things relating to type of movie, rather than something deeper, being used to judge.

If hyperbole is for show and not to make something out to be true specifically I don't mind it.

The top 10 of 2008
1. Curious Case of Benjamin Button
2. Hey Hey It's Esther Blueburger
3. Vicky Christina Barcelona
4. The Black Balloon
5. The Dark Knight
6. Margot at the Wedding
7. Frost/Nixon
8. Away From Her
9. The Duchess
10. Baby Mama

My top 5 WORST films of 2008:
1. The Day the Earth Stood Still
2. Tropic Thunder
3. 27 Dresses
4. Jumper
5. Deception

Top 4 Directors:
Quentin Tarantino
David Lynch
Todd Field
Michael Gondry

My top 3 of all time:
1. Kill Bill Vol 2 (only mainstream likes vol 1 more)
2. Muriel's Wedding
3. Pan's Labyrinth

Michel...

Heh, I think that snobbery is only snobbery if not approached well.

We are deeply sorry for the delay. We are, however, less sorry to deny your application.

mods please lock this thread its immoral

I thought this thread had been done away with?



Can I join?

Yes, of course. You can sit next to Omni.