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Re: James Bond: Dr. No to Skyfall
I think it's more of the tone in which she says it. She doesn't say it as someone who would just have a passing knowledge of that. That and it probably isn't far fetched that that intrigued Elliot enough to listen to the entire conversation which begins with Paris slapping Bond in the face, follows with Bond asking, " Was it something I said?" with Paris answering, "How about the words I'll be right back?"
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Re: James Bond: Dr. No to Skyfall
Tomorrow Never Dies is easily the worst Bond film since View to a Kill. It takes everything that worked well in Goldeneye and stops pushing the envelope and back to the safe approach, bringing back to the cliches of Bond. To make matters worse, it's boring, Carver is not a good villain (Sorry J Mart, but a man trying to start WWIII for Ratings is harder to swallow than Bond's pre cold war man juice.) And the action scenes are not memorable in the slightest, from The big Russian Sysco looking henchman to the asian bond girl not doing.
That may sound like I hated the film, which is not true. It still has some good action scenes, and never gets laughably bad, and Brosnan is probably at his best in this film. I will say that World is not Enough and Die Another Day are overall worst films, but their best parts outshine almost anything in Tomorrow Never Dies.
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Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:42 pm
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Re: James Bond: Dr. No to Skyfall
Thegun wrote:
Carver is not a good villain (Sorry J Mart, but a man trying to start WWIII for Ratings is harder to swallow than Bond's pre cold war man juice.)
Carver was almost a prescient character in a way. Not a terrific villain but the concept behind him is solid.
Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:51 pm
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Re: The Bond Films 1-22
1. Goldeneye A 2. Tomorrow Never Dies A- 3. The World is Not Enough B+ 4. Licence to Kill B+ 5. Never Say Never Again B+ 6. Casino Royale B+ 7. The Living Daylights B 8. Dr. No B 9. A View to a Kill B 10. Quantum of Solace B- 11. Moonraker C 12. On Her Majesty's Secret Service C 13. Die Another Day C-
Can't really remember these ones too well. They all merge into one and it's hard to remember which is which. I've seen them all many times on TV, but I never check the titles. It's just "oh, James Bond is on again" and I watch it. Need to watch again:
The Man With the Golden Gun Octopussy Diamonds are Forever For Your Eyes Only Thunderball The Spy Who Loved Me From Russia With Love Goldfinger You Only Live Twice Live and Let Die
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Re: James Bond: Dr. No to Skyfall
1. Skyfall - 8.5/10 2. The Spy Who Loved Me - 8.0/10 3. Casino Royale - 8.0/10 4. Tomorrow Never Dies - 7.5/10 5. From Russia with Love - 7.5/10 6. The Living Daylights - 7.5/10 7. Goldeneye - 7.0/10 8. Goldfinger - 7.0/10 9. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 7.0/10 10. Moonraker - 7.0/10 11. Diamonds are Forever - 7.0/10 12. For Your Eyes Only - 6.5/10 13. Die Another Day - 6.5/10 14. Thunderball - 6.5/10 15. Live and Let Die - 6.0/10 16. Licence To Kill - 6.0/10 17. You Only Live Twice - 6.0/10 18. Octopussy - 6.0/10 19. Quantum of Solace - 6.0/10 20. The World is Not Enough - 6.0/10 21. Dr. No - 6.0/10 22. The Man with the Golden Gun - 5.5/10 23. A View To A Kill - 5.5/10
1. Skyfall - 9.0|10 A 2. Casino Royale - 9.0|10 A 3. Goldeneye - 8.5|10 A- 4. Dr. No - 8.1|10 B+ 5. Tomorrow Never Dies - 7.2|10 B- 6. The World is Not Enough - 7.0|10 B- 7. Quantum of Solace - 4.9|10 D 8. Die Another Day - 0.0|10 Z
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1. Skyfall A+ 2. Goldeneye A 3. Spectre A- 4. Tomorrow Never Dies A-
5. The World is Not Enough B+ 6. Licence to Kill B+ 7. Never Say Never Again B+
8. The Living Daylights B 9. Dr. No B 10. A View to a Kill B 11. Casino Royale B 12. The Man With the Golden Gun B 13. Octopussy B 14. Diamonds are Forever B 15. For Your Eyes Only B 16. Thunderball B 17. The Spy Who Loved Me B 18. From Russia With Love B 19. Goldfinger B 20. You Only Live Twice B 21. Live and Let Die B 22. Quantum of Solace B-
23. Moonraker C 24. On Her Majesty's Secret Service C
25. Die Another Day D+
Great series. A few hiccups. A few greats. Best Bond is Brosnan.
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Re: James Bond: Dr. No to Skyfall
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Brosnan's the best of the Bonds at being able to play both serious and silly. The World Is Not Enough is a perfect example. One moment he's executing an unarmed woman and taking a moment to grieve, and in another he's straightening his tie while underwater. And he makes it work.
Moonraker might not be the best Bond movie — it might not even be the best of Moore’s time with the Bond mantle. But all these years later, its goofy charm perhaps best represents the joyful camp that Moore brought to his role as 007, something we will always remember now that he’s gone.
Over the years, my youthful resistance to campiness has faded, and my esteem for Moonraker has grown.
1. Pierce Brosnan 2. Sean Connery 3. Daniel Craig 4. Timothy Dalton 5. Roger Moore 6. George Lazenby
Fri May 26, 2017 3:31 am
Algren
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1. Pierce Brosnan A 2. Sean Connery A
3. Timothy Dalton B 4. Roger Moore B 5. Daniel Craig B-
6. George Lazenby C
Daniel Craig isn't a great Bond, but happens to be in the best Bond films. Brosnan is the perfect Bond for me, but then I suppose more or less people choose the one that was Bond when they were young and first got interested in Bond movies.
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I found it difficult to really give them grades, I even liked Lazenby too because his is one of the best Bond films I think. And yeah agree about Craig exactly. Brosnan is the Bond I'd enjoy the most by far. Connery might not be worse, but Brosnan's film have had much more impact on me.
Fri May 26, 2017 7:15 am
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Re: James Bond: Dr. No to Skyfall
Lazenby never feels right.
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Re: James Bond: Dr. No to Skyfall
I'm looking forward to watching the new documentary/docudrama about George Lazenby - Becoming Bond.
Also, I like this latter day review of On Her Majesty's Secret Service, that helps place the movie and Lazenby in historical context.
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