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Some people are saying 3B has a race problem


What exactly is that supposed to mean? You didn't say "racist" outright so I assume it's a separate but related category of moral crime.

Sorry, I'm not up to date with all the GoodThink Liberal terms du jour.


https://psmag.com/social-justice/three- ... ad-on-race

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/ent ... 977024001/


http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/oscars-2 ... klash.html

I've been seeing this on Twitter since shortly after the film released. A lot of people have taken issue with it.


I think the issue with the movie is bigger than the race problem. It makes light of the central characters (Dixon and Mildred)' horrible actions in order to make their redemptive moments possible. It is very manipulative. Have you seen it? Do you feel the same about the movie?

I don't doubt its chances at the Oscars. Voters love a movie with a big theme and some feel-good self-redemptive moments, middle of the road and not too edgy.


I have seen it. I don't take huge issue with it as people can have a change of heart. But I do feel in the case of Dixon that it comes way too quick and easy. I was still wanting him severely punished for throwing the guy out the window.


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So what are our predictions regarding how much they discuss last year’s best picture blunder? I’m sure Jimmy will joke about it, but I’d like to see some acknowledgement from the academy themselves. Steve Harvey should give out the first award of the night.

Also, do we expect them to buck the tradition of having previous winners announce the acting award? You can’t throw Casey Affleck out there after this season of award shows. And I think that would fit well with the theme of “Time’s Up”.


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They surely have a PR team aware of the backlash having Casey Affleck there would cause. I predict they will circumvent having to invite him by loudly announcing that, in honour of the #movement, they will have all the acting awards presented by groups of several actresses.

Now if James Franco is nominated.....

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I would just have Sandra Bullock do it since most of the other A-list actresses are in the running for nominations this year.


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Magic Mike wrote:
i.hope wrote:
Magic Mike wrote:
Shack wrote:
Barrabás wrote:
Shack wrote:
Some people are saying 3B has a race problem


What exactly is that supposed to mean? You didn't say "racist" outright so I assume it's a separate but related category of moral crime.

Sorry, I'm not up to date with all the GoodThink Liberal terms du jour.


https://psmag.com/social-justice/three- ... ad-on-race

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/ent ... 977024001/


http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/oscars-2 ... klash.html

I've been seeing this on Twitter since shortly after the film released. A lot of people have taken issue with it.


I think the issue with the movie is bigger than the race problem. It makes light of the central characters (Dixon and Mildred)' horrible actions in order to make their redemptive moments possible. It is very manipulative. Have you seen it? Do you feel the same about the movie?

I don't doubt its chances at the Oscars. Voters love a movie with a big theme and some feel-good self-redemptive moments, middle of the road and not too edgy.


I have seen it. I don't take huge issue with it as people can have a change of heart. But I do feel in the case of Dixon that it comes way too quick and easy. I was still wanting him severely punished for throwing the guy out the window.


The other characters (the billboard ad agency guy and his secretary, the dentist, Mildred's co-worker) letting them (especially Dixon) get away even when they are the victims of their violence and power abuse is just too unbelievable. The story treats the absence of rule of law in the town as a matter of fact while it is a source of the growing rage between Dixon and Mildred. It weakens the message of resolution of rage by love and forgiveness that the movie tries to convey. It really is not about love or forgiveness. Most of what takes place in the movie would be prevented if the police acted more professionally and took their personal anger off the job.


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And if Meryl Streep is nominated it's also a problem. After all, SHE KNEW...

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MY PREDICTIONS

Quote:
BEST PICTURE

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Lady Bird
The Shape of Water
Get Out
Dunkirk
The Post
Call Me By Your Name
The Florida Project
The Big Sick
Molly's Game

BEST DIRECTOR

Guillermo Del Toro, The Shape of Water
Jordan Peele, Get Out
Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird
Christopher Nolan, Dunkirk
Martin McDonagh, Three Billboards

BEST ACTRESS

Frances McDorman, Three Billboards
Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird
Sally Hawkins, The Shape of Water
Meryl Streep, The Post
Margot Robbie, I, Tonya

BEST ACTOR

Gary Oldman, The Darkest Hour
Timothee Chalamet, Call Me By Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis, Phantom Thread
Daniel Kaluuya, Get Out
James Franco, The Disaster Artist

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird
Allison Janney, I, Tonya
Holly Hunter, The Big Sick
Mary J. Blige, Mudbound
Octavia Spencer, The Shape of Water

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR

Sam Rockwell, Three Billboards
Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project
Richard Jenkins, The Shape of Water
Christopher Plummer, All The Money In The World
Woody Harrelson, Three Billboards

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY

Call Me By Your Name
Molly's Game
Mudbound
The Disaster Artist
Wonder

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
The Shape of Water
Get Out
Lady Bird
The Big Sick

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY

Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Mudbound
Call Me By Your Name

COSTUME DESIGN

Phantom Thread
Beauty & The Beast
The Greatest Showman
Darkest Hour
The Shape of Water

FILM EDITING

Dunkirk
Baby Driver
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Blade Runner 2049

MAKEUP & HAIR

The Darkest Hour
Wonder
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

PRODUCTION DESIGN

The Shape of Water
Dunkirk
Blade Runner 2049
Beauty & The Beast
The Darkest Hour

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE

Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Phantom Thread
The Post
The Darkest Hour

BEST ORIGINAL SONG

This Is Me, The Greatest Showman
Remember Me, Coco
Mystery of Love, Call Me By Your Name
Mighty River, Mudbound
Evermore, Beauty & The Beast

DOCUMENTARY

Jane
Faces Places
City of Ghosts
Icarus
Last Men In Aleppo

SOUND EDITING

Dunkirk
Baby Driver
The Shape of Water
Blade Runner 2049
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

SOUND MIXING

Dunkirk
Baby Driver
The Greatest Showman
Blade Runner 2049
The Shape of Water

VISUAL EFFECTS

The Shape of Water
War For The Planet of the Apes
Dunkirk
Blade Runner 2049
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

BEST ANIMATED

Coco
Loving Vincent
The Breadwinner
Lego Batman
Ferdinand

BEST FOREIGN

A Fantastic Woman
The Square
In The Fade
Foxtrot
Loveless



I don't actually think there will be 10 Best Picture nominees. Just predicted in case.


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SAGs not nominating Shape of Water makes no sense now that we know it's BP frontrunner and such an ensemble nomination friendly film. Their 5 nominations were Big Sick, Lady Bird, Get Out, Mudbound, Three Billboards. So it's a combination of women or anti-harrasment films + minority films. The last two years also fit the woke theme from Elba's statement win to Hidden Figures and Denzel (and Viola/Ali) winning last year. This year all the presenters will be female. It would seem to be the main force driving socially conscious wins like Moonlight may be the actors, and it could be the same this year if a film like Lady Bird pulls it out in the end and Shape of Water like three amigos films Gravity and The Revenant has PGA, DGA and Director split. Then again, it could also go the route of Innaritu's other film Birdman and just dominate. But it doesn't feel right to me as BP winner. Then again neither did Birdman until it was in the bag.

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SAG has to nominate eventual PGA winner/BP front-runner or it does not make sense? You are over-thinking. SAG is not obligated to act as a predictor of other awards.


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SAG has to nominate eventual PGA winner/BP front-runner or it does not make sense? You are over-thinking. SAG is not obligated to act as a predictor of other awards.


It's more that Shape of Water is an ensemble film so it should thrive in the Best Ensemble category at SAG. It's not a situation like La La Land where it missing SAG was explained by being a 2 star film. It would've been very plausible a few months ago in my opinion for it to win SAG and lose the other major guilds

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The four nominees (The Big Sick, Lady Bird, Get Out, Three Billboards) that I have seen are also ensemble-friendly and especially strong in the cases of Get Out and Three Billboards (dialog helps). I have not seen Mudbound.


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Fingers crossed for Nolan shutout!


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Hm... nothing really surprising besides Billboards missing director and Franco missing a nom. They really liked Phantom Thread surprisingly.


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I was mostly happy with these nominations. Surprised The Last Jedi got in for anything. Annoyed Armie Hammer got skipped. Annoyed Franco was skipped over bogus allegations but that's Hollywood for ya. Could Oldman be hurt by past allegations of spouse abuse? Happy Baby Driver got nods. Finally the Meryl and Denzel nods were nonsense.

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Stupid that Franco missed out.

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And next time you choose someone to present the nominations, please select someone who isn't:

a) shortsighted

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b) illiterate

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Best Picture
Get Out

Directing
The Shape of Water (Guillermo del Toro)

Writing (Original Screenplay)
Get Out (Written by Jordan Peele)

Writing (Adapted Screenplay)
Call Me by Your Name (Screenplay by James Ivory)

Actor in a Leading Role
Gary Oldman (Darkest Hour)

Actress in a Leading Role
Frances McDormand (Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri)

Actor in a Supporting Role
Sam Rockwell (Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri)

Actress in a Supporting Role
Laurie Metcalf (Lady Bird)

Cinematography
Roger Deakins (Blade Runner 2049)

Editing
Lee Smith (Dunkirk)


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And next time you choose someone to present the nominations, please select someone who isn't:

a) shortsighted

or

b) illiterate


:hahaha:

To be fair some names are hard to pronounce.


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It was way more fun than listening to the usual Hollywooden actors do it.


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Picture- Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri (runner up The Shape of Water)
Director- Guillermo Del Toro, The Shape of Water (runner up Christopher Nolan, Dunkirk)
Actor- Gary Oldman, Darkest Hour (runner up Timothee Chalamet, Call Me By Your Name)
Actress- Frances McDormand, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri (runner up Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird)
Supporting Actor- Sam Rockwell, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri (runner up Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project)
Supporting Actress- Allison Janney, I, Tonya (runner up Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird)
Adapted Screenplay- Call Me By Your Name (runner up Molly's Game)
Original Screenplay- Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri (runner up Lady Bird)
Animated Film- Coco (runner up The Breadwinner)
Cinematography- Dunkirk (runner up The Shape of Water)
Costume Design- The Shape of Water (runner up Beauty and the Beast)
Editing- Dunkirk (runner up The Shape of Water)
Makeup and Hairstyling- Darkest Hour (runner up Wonder)
Original Score- The Shape of Water (runner up Dunkirk)
Original Song- "This Is Me" The Greatest Showman (runner up Remember Me, Coco)
Production Design- The Shape of Water (runner up Beauty and the Beast)
Sound Editing- Dunkirk (runner up, The Shape of Water)
Sound Mixing- Dunkirk (runner up, The Shape of Water)
Visual Effects- War for the Planet of the Apes (runner up Blade Runner 2049

Three Billboards- 4
The Shape of Water- 4
Dunkirk- 4
Darkest Hour- 2

The rest will win one or none.


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Very early predictions

Best Picture
The Shape of Water

Directing
Lady Bird (Greta Gerwig)

Writing (Original Screenplay)
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (Written by Martin McDonagh)

Writing (Adapted Screenplay)
Call Me by Your Name (Screenplay by James Ivory)

Actor in a Leading Role*
Gary Oldman (Darkest Hour)

Actress in a Leading Role*
Frances McDormand (Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri)

Actor in a Supporting Role*
Sam Rockwell (Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri)

Actress in a Supporting Role*
Allison Janney (I, Tonya)

Cinematography
Blade Runner 2049 (Roger A. Deakins)

Film Editing
The Shape of Water (Sidney Wolinsky)

Sound Editing
Baby Driver (Julian Slater)

Sound Mixing
The Shape of Water (Christian Cooke, Brad Zoern and Glen Gauthier)

Music (Original Score)*
The Shape of Water (Alexandre Desplat)

Music (Original Song)
"Remember Me" from Coco

Animated Feature Film*
Coco (Lee Unkrich and Darla K. Anderson)

Foreign Language Film
A Fantastic Woman (Chile)

Visual Effects*
Blade Runner 2049

Production Design
The Shape of Water

Makeup*
Darkest Hour

Costume Design
Phantom Thread

The predictions with an asterisk next to them are the only predictions I have any confidence in.

The Shape of Water - 5
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - 3
Blade Runner 2049 - 3
Coco - 2
Darkest Hour - 2
I, Tonya - 1
Call Me By Your Name - 1
Baby Driver - 1
Phantom Thread - 1
Lady Bird - 1
A Fantastic Woman - 1

It wouldn’t surprise me if Get Out gets Screenplay. I also think it’s down to Shape of Water and Lady Bird for Picture. If Del Toro wins Lady Bird will win BP and vice versa. I don’t think Lady Bird gets shutout considering the response and what’s gone on this year. That’s why I think Get Out has a very good chance at Screenplay even though I didn’t pick it. And even though i didn’t predict it to win anything, I sure hope Dunkirk gets something (probably cinematography and Deakins walks away empty handed again).

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The person I saw The Shape of Water, though far from being a prude, couldn't get over the masturbation scene at the beginning - she said it was unnecessary to the Sally Hawkins character. I think that scene alone will be the reason that Guillermo doesn't take home the best picture oscar.


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The person I saw The Shape of Water, though far from being a prude, couldn't get over the masturbation scene at the beginning - she said it was unnecessary to the Sally Hawkins character. I think that scene alone will be the reason that Guillermo doesn't take home the best picture oscar.


I haven't seen the film (yet), but that coupled, with the honest trailer I just saw, makes it complete sense that a horny woman would end up banging a fish.


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It is astonishing the amount of territories where it is STILL perfectly legal to fuck animals.

Russia, Czech Republic, Hungary, Israel, Finland, Iceland, Germany, Romania, Cuba, Chile, Argentina, and the USA (New Mexico, Wyoming, DC, Hawaii, Kentucky, and West Virginia).


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