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 Which Nominees Haven't You Seen? 
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Why can't people just hire whoever they want? We should have a role quota for each race in every movie then?


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Why can't people just hire whoever they want? We should have a role quota for each race in every movie then?


They should hire whoever they want! But if the people they "want" are consistently white males, then something is wrong. If white males were 90% of the population, it would make sense that movies were 90% white males. If white males are less than 50% of the population, they shouldn't be getting >50% of all movie roles. That's a bias that needs to be addressed.

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Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:57 pm
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Is it possible that white actors are just better on average at certain roles than other races would be? Or that they have more interest in acting than other races? Or that there are more bankable white stars? I mean there are certainly plenty of roles that only minorities would fit?


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Is it possible that white actors are just better on average at certain roles than other races would be? Or that they have more interest in acting than other races? Or that there are more bankable white stars? I mean there are certainly plenty of roles that only minorities would fit?


Yes, it's "possible". But it's not probable. More interest in acting? Have you seen any movies lately?

More bankable white stars? There is only one bankable star, and he's white. Every other one is replaceable. Just look at Hidden Figures/La La Land. Both huge crowd pleasers, but one if dominated by WOC, and is about to make more money despite LLL's better reviews. It's about putting the right actors in the right roles. The fact is, white actors on average get better roles because of a bias in hollywood's system. The same goes for directing.

Do you really think that there are only good male directors? Are there no capable female directors? Is there something about a female director that hollywood shies away from giving a big budget? There is no reason. It's an ingrained sexism. And it's ingrained racism.

You have to force it out. Or else this will take generations to become equal.

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I understand that it is ingrained sexism and racism. But I don't believe it's something that can be legislated away and it will take time. We already are making progress. Most films nowadays do have a lot of females and people of color. It's really behind the camera where the issue is.


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Chippy is just a perfect example of an Internet wise guy that knows everything and knows the best way to do everything, but does absolutely fuck-all in real life.

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I don't know everything. But I know that there are many aspects of hollywood that are still insanely sexist and racist.

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Caught up on a few. Now remaining:

Loving
20th Century Women
The Red Turtle
13th
Fire at Sea
I Am Not Your Negro
Life, Animated
O.J.: Made in America
Land of Mine
Tanna
A Man Called Ove
Jim: The James Foley Story (Best Song)

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update

loving
my life as a zucchini
the red turtle
land of mine
a man called ove
the salesman
tanna
toni erdmann
fire at sea
i am not your negro
life, animated
o.j.: made in america
trolls
jim: the james foley story
deepwater horizon
allied
live-action & documentary shorts

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