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Author:  Goldie [ Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:14 am ]
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As Ebert has almost 50 films on this list, I think he has alot of good and interesting picks on this list.

The best films of 2004:

1. "Million Dollar Baby"
2. "Kill Bill, Volume 2"
3. "Vera Drake"
4. "Spider-Man 2"
5. "Moolaade"
6. "The Aviator"
7. "Baadasssss!"
8. "Sideways"
9. "Hotel Rwanda"
10. "Undertow"

Special Jury Prize - Another 15 ONLY In Alphabetically Order.

- "The Assassination of Richard Nixon,"
- "Closer"
- "The Dreamers"
- "House of Flying Daggers"
- "Kinsey"
- "The Merchant of Venice"
- "The Passion of the Christ"
- "The Polar Express"
- "Ray"
- "The Saddest Music in the World"
- "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow"
- "The Terminal"
- "Touching the Void"
- "Twilight Samurai"
- "When Will I Be Loved,"

Best documentaries

- "The Agronomist"
- "Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer"
- "Fahrenheit 9/11"
- "My Architect"
- "Riding Giants"
- "Tarnation"

EBERT'S WORST FILMS OF 2004

1. (tie) "Troy"
1. (tie) "Alexander"
2. "Christmas With the Kranks"
3. "The Girl Next Door"
4. "Dogville"
5. "New York Minute"
6. "The Grudge"
7. "White Chicks"
8. "Resident Evil: Apocalypse"
9. "The Whole Ten Yards"
10. "The Village"
Author:  MovieDude [ Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:27 am ]
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Troy
The Girl Next Door
The Grudge

There's several other that I really liked on there, but these ones I can't understand at all.
Author:  Riggs [ Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:26 am ]
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Some of his worst movies are in my top ten. lol

Troy
The Girl Next Door
Dogville
The Village

Haven't seen Alexander yet. :(
Author:  Atoddr [ Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:07 am ]
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I still can't decide if I liked Dogville or not! :roll:
Author:  kypade [ Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:34 am ]
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Dogville
Author:  neo_wolf [ Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:11 pm ]
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I agree completely with his top 10 worse films.
Author:  Goldie [ Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:08 pm ]
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On the positive side, I like some of his choices as he has some surprising Top 10 fun picks and also his next 15 .... will come back to, right now I am too busy.
Author:  Stillnasatic [ Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:27 pm ]
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I thought Dogville was fantastic...so I disagree on that one
Author:  Goldie [ Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Roger Ebert 2004 - Best 10 / Next 15 / Best Doc / Worst
Goldie wrote:
As Ebert has almost 50 films on this list, I think he has alot of good and interesting picks on this list.

May not agree but here are some COOL picks for a film critic

The best films of 2004:

1. "Million Dollar Baby"
2. "Kill Bill, Volume 2" - COOL
3. "Vera Drake"
4. "Spider-Man 2" - COOL
5. "Moolaade"
6. "The Aviator"
7. "Baadasssss!" - COOL
8. "Sideways"
9. "Hotel Rwanda"
10. "Undertow"

Special Jury Prize - Another 15 ONLY In Alphabetically Order.

- "The Assassination of Richard Nixon,"
- "Closer"
- "The Dreamers"
- "House of Flying Daggers"
- "Kinsey"
- "The Merchant of Venice"
- "The Passion of the Christ"
- "The Polar Express"
- "Ray"
- "The Saddest Music in the World"
- "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" - COOL
- "The Terminal"
- "Touching the Void"
- "Twilight Samurai"
- "When Will I Be Loved,"

Best documentaries

- "The Agronomist"
- "Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer"
- "Fahrenheit 9/11" - COOL
- "My Architect"
- "Riding Giants"
- "Tarnation"

EBERT'S WORST FILMS OF 2004

1. (tie) "Troy"
1. (tie) "Alexander"
2. "Christmas With the Kranks"
3. "The Girl Next Door"
4. "Dogville"
5. "New York Minute"
6. "The Grudge"
7. "White Chicks"
8. "Resident Evil: Apocalypse"
9. "The Whole Ten Yards"
10. "The Village"


Nice Ebert, some cool picks in the top 10 - mainly Bill and Spidey.

- On Troy, I have to say that picking Troy as the #1 seems wrong to me. I didn't see Alexander but most people hated it - too long, too gay, too muddled, etc. Most people had a hate for it.

- On Troy, I think that most people had good things to say about it - Eric Bana, O'Toole, Pitt, the fight etc. Maybe not a perfect picture but I have to go back and read his review as why he is picking it as the #1 Worst film.
Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:40 pm ]
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Goldie wrote:
too gay


That's insightful.

I'm really glad Ebert had Kill Bill high on his list. :D
Author:  Raffiki [ Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:38 pm ]
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I only have two HUGE probelms with Ebert this year.

Dogville was a masterpiece of modern ciname, #3 on my list, yet #4 WORST on his list.

and the ommission of Before Sunset in his top 25! The #2 (and extremely close to #1) movie of the year on my list.
Author:  zingy [ Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:54 pm ]
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Interesting that Troy and Alexander are his worst movies of the year. Alexander was truly dissapointing, but I completely disagree with him on Troy. Also, he has a few of my favorites in his top 10 worst, but that's really no surprise to me. I'm very happy to see Spider-Man 2, Hotel Rwanda, and Kill Bill Vol. 2 on his top 10 best of the year.
Author:  Goldie [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:35 am ]
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[quote="publicenemy#1"]
Goldie wrote:
too gay


That's insightful.

I'm really glad Ebert had Kill Bill high on his list. :D[/quote]

Nice one, punk.

Why don't you print the whole quote or show it correctly. I said I didn't see it but 3 people told him that they were turned off by that part of the story-line.
Author:  Riggs [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:13 am ]
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Alexander definately was too gay for my taste. :wink:
Author:  MovieDude [ Mon Dec 27, 2004 2:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Roger Ebert 2004 - Best 10 / Next 15 / Best Doc / Worst
Goldie wrote:
[quote="publicenemy#1"]
Goldie wrote:
too gay


That's insightful.


I'm really glad Ebert had Kill Bill high on his list. :D

Nice one, punk.

Why don't you print the whole quote or show it correctly. I said I didn't see it but 3 people told him that they were turned off by that part of the story-line.[/quote]

I CAN USE BIG FONT TO SEEM INTIMIDATING!
Listen man, I haven't used a forum in months, but he used a specific part of your quote to prove his point. Some people value brevity. There's no reason to be so nasty, and yes, I agree, it is a pretty bad reason to list for why Alexander might have been bad. I'll say it's a mess as quickly as anyone, but saying it's bad because it's "too gay" is like saying Flight of the Phoenix sucked because "not enough people were white".[/b]
Author:  andaroo1 [ Mon Dec 27, 2004 3:20 am ]
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Raffiki wrote:
Dogville was a masterpiece of modern ciname, #3 on my list, yet #4 WORST on his list.

Dogville is in my top ten, but I'm not really surprised it is winding up on people's worst-of lists. Ebert doesn't usually waste his time with movies like Torque, he goes for the grand stuff that falls flat. If you took Dogville in a certain context, I could easily see it ending up on a worst of list.

Quote:
and the ommission of Before Sunset in his top 25! The #2 (and extremely close to #1) movie of the year on my list.

Well... yeah but... I agree with Ebert there :D
Author:  MovieDude [ Mon Dec 27, 2004 4:24 am ]
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andaroo wrote:
Raffiki wrote:
Dogville was a masterpiece of modern ciname, #3 on my list, yet #4 WORST on his list.

Dogville is in my top ten, but I'm not really surprised it is winding up on people's worst-of lists. Ebert doesn't usually waste his time with movies like Torque, he goes for the grand stuff that falls flat. If you took Dogville in a certain context, I could easily see it ending up on a worst of list.

Quote:
and the ommission of Before Sunset in his top 25! The #2 (and extremely close to #1) movie of the year on my list.

Well... yeah but... I agree with Ebert there :D


Haha, he actually gave Torque a thumbs up! :lol:
Author:  Goldie [ Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Roger Ebert 2004 - Best 10 / Next 15 / Best Doc / Worst
MovieDude wrote:
Goldie wrote:
[quote="publicenemy#1"]
Goldie wrote:
too gay


That's insightful.


I'm really glad Ebert had Kill Bill high on his list. :D

Nice one, punk.

Why don't you print the whole quote or show it correctly. I said I didn't see it but 3 people told him that they were turned off by that part of the story-line.


I CAN USE BIG FONT TO SEEM INTIMIDATING!
Listen man, I haven't used a forum in months, but he used a specific part of your quote to prove his point. Some people value brevity. There's no reason to be so nasty, and yes, I agree, it is a pretty bad reason to list for why Alexander might have been bad. I'll say it's a mess as quickly as anyone, but saying it's bad because it's "too gay" is like saying Flight of the Phoenix sucked because "not enough people were white".[/b][/quote]



Only want to point out again, that I didn't see the movie but 3 people told me that they were turned off by the this sexualty part of the movie. They told me it was overdone, not really not needed and a turn off.

I only pointed it out, let the people who saw the movie decide. But there had to be lots of reasons that it got 14 % on RT.
Author:  Neostorm [ Mon Dec 27, 2004 4:55 pm ]
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The girl next door was one of the funniest movies of the year.
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