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Can an actor be nominated in more than one category, or twice in a single category?

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Can an actor be nominated in more than one category, or twice in a single category?


Theoretically, why not? Soderbergh was nominated twice for Best Director in 2000...

Mostly, I think the studios try and avoid that by sometimes subordinating what are essentially 'lead' roles as supporting. No studio would want their contender to be cannibalized by their own selves. You could argue that might have been what happened to Michael Fassbender this year.


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An actor can't be nominated in the same category twice. It's one of those stupid Oscar rules...

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5. In the event that two achievements by an actor or actress receive sufficient votes to be nominated in the same category, only one shall be nominated using the preferential tabulation process and such other allied procedures as may be necessary to achieve that result.

http://www.oscars.org/awards/academyawa ... ule06.html


But actors are nominated in more than one category all the time. Cate Blanchett in Elizabeth: The Golden Age + I'm Not There, Jamie Foxx in Ray + Collateral, Julianne Moore in Far From Heaven + The Hours...and that's just from this century.

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Yeahm that's one of the most moronic Oscar rules out there which basically forces category fraud (like in Foxx' case, or attempted in Kate Winslet's case).

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I honestly believe they might have nominated Foxx as a supporting actor for Collateral even if Ray didn't exist. Similar to Casey Affleck's supporting nomination for Jesse James. The Academy is willing to call you supporting if you're opposite a huge international star, even if the percentage screen time split is 60-40 your favor.

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I feel like Great Gatsby won't be a big contender.


Ditto. Maybe some technical nods but that's all.

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A December release hasn't won Best Picture since 2004. I'm not sure the whole, "Wait until December to release prestige pic and let the mystery/hype build to a fever pitch" angle is effective anymore. I believe Weinstein has the right idea with those late-November launches he gave The King's Speech and The Artist. More time for the art-house old farts to see your movie ;) and for grassroots W.O.M. to spread.

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That's true December is a little too late these days. Influential year end lists come out in early December and it doesn't givers acad members enough time.

BTW - looks like The Master may come out in October.

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A December release hasn't won Best Picture since 2004. I'm not sure the whole, "Wait until December to release prestige pic and let the mystery/hype build to a fever pitch" angle is effective anymore. I believe Weinstein has the right idea with those late-November launches he gave The King's Speech and The Artist. More time for the art-house old farts to see your movie ;) and for grassroots W.O.M. to spread.


Thanksgiving week is a great time to release your Oscar contender.

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Best Actor seems very strong this year. Daniel Day-Lewis in Lincoln, of course. Leonardo DiCaprio in The Great Gatsby. John Hawkes in The Sessions. Hugh Jackman in Les Misérables. Bill Murray in Hyde Park on Hudson. Joaquin Phoenix in The Master.

I almost can't see Day-Lewis winning. It's too soon after There Will Be Blood. He's a titan and a living legend, yes, but a third win so soon? His female equivalent, Streep, waited nearly thirty years for a third win. Also, has anyone ever won an acting Oscar for a Spielberg film?

I predict it will come down to Murray and Phoenix.

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I sincerely hope Moonrise Kingdom is remembered at the end of the year. Think it might be a toss up between that and Beasts of the Southern Wild for the "hit summer indie" Best Picture slot.

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I sincerely hope Moonrise Kingdom is remembered at the end of the year. Think it might be a toss up between that and Beasts of the Southern Wild for the "hit summer indie" Best Picture slot.


I'm actually predicting both to make it in right now. It can be like a lower-key scenario from last year of a breakout art house comedy (Midnight in Paris/Moonrise) and a heavier, more emotional drama with a passionate following (Tree of Life/Beasts) both making the Picture line-up. Moonrise being Anderson's biggest success in a while will help it, and having seen Beasts I definitely think it can rally up enough passion to get the needed #1 votes.


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I would love to predict a Best Picture nomination for Moonrise Kingdom, but I can't see it happening. The Midnight in Paris comparison is tempting (Moonrise is a far superior film even), but also seems flawed because Wes Anderson films have received a grand total of three Oscar nominations, whereas Woody Allen is an Oscar fixture (despite rarely attending).

Midnight in Paris also played gangbusters with older audiences, whereas Moonrise Kingdom' core fan base is much younger.

The obligatory screenplay nomination for a quirky, well-received film (Memento, The Royal Tenenbaums, American Splendor, Y tu mamá también, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Squid and the Whale, Lars and the Real Girl) should be in the cards, though. The writing branches are always more adventurous.

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Warner Bros releasing Cloud Atlas on October 27th gives me hope, but I'm sure it'll be way too edgy for the Oscars.

I could see Life of Pi playing big. Django Unchained could definitely be a power player if it really delivers in the same way Inglorious Basterds did.


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I would love to predict a Best Picture nomination for Moonrise Kingdom, but I can't see it happening. The Midnight in Paris comparison is tempting (Moonrise is a far superior film even), but also seems flawed because Wes Anderson films have received a grand total of three Oscar nominations, whereas Woody Allen is an Oscar fixture (despite rarely attending).

Midnight in Paris also played gangbusters with older audiences, whereas Moonrise Kingdom' core fan base is much younger.

The obligatory screenplay nomination for a quirky, well-received film (Memento, The Royal Tenenbaums, American Splendor, Y tu mamá también, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Squid and the Whale, Lars and the Real Girl) should be in the cards, though. The writing branches are always more adventurous.


A lot of those would have easily been nominated in a potential field of 10.

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Maybe, but even in the era of the expanded field, there have been writing nominees such as The Messenger, Another Year, Margin Call, A Separation, In the Loop, and Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, films too small or niche to garner a Best Picture nod.

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Stil can't believe Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy missed. Not only did it score two important nods, its box-office actually was really solid given the lack of huge awards buzz. If nominated for BP, it would have cleared $35 million with ease (it never even played in 900 theatres or more).


Even the Brits didn't love it much, considerng its BAFTAs performance...

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It was too cold and too steely and English. Not a criticism, merely an awards-season observation

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The cold part was no different in TWBB or No Country for Old Men.

English, yes, but at least the British should have loved it then...

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Yes but those other movies weren't English, let alone as stiff-upper-lip, keep-calm-and-carry-on English as this one

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Maybe, but even in the era of the expanded field, there have been writing nominees such as The Messenger, Another Year, Margin Call, A Separation, In the Loop, and Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, films too small or niche to garner a Best Picture nod.


Moonrise Kingdom is going to make more money than any of those films.

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Maybe you're right, and it will be nominated. I certainly wouldn't mind. I just have a hard time seeing a Wes Anderson film, a film with the strongest appeal among young adults, scoring a Best Picture nomination.

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Moonrise's reviews have also quietly crept into the realm of outstanding - its MC score is at 84, with eight 100s and only five out of the 42 reviews have a rating under 75. It's also become his best reviews movie on RT, with 94% and an 8.1 average rating. It's just a really, really easy film to like or even love, which should help it come awards season.


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So somewhat shockingly, Tatum is getting some rave reviews for MM. Some are calling it a career making film.

This sounds so far off for the Academy, but if the acclaim picks up and the box office supports it, could he actually get Oscar attention?


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