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Algren
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 Re: Wonder Woman Ooh, lists!
1. Man of Steel A
2. Suicide Squad B-
3. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice C
4. Wonder Woman D+
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Algren
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Re: Wonder Woman stuffp wrote: Groucho wrote: This island has had no contact with the rest of the planet for how many
thousands of years yet she not only can speak English but modern English as well? Dil wrote: it's weird how closed off they are from the rest of the world yet they can speak perfect, modern day English. This didn't bother me at all though, after all she (they) speak "100" languages and the English was with a twist of ancient "greek" accent which I actually found appealing. This didn't bother me as an error or plot hole (it is explained as plain as day), but it bothered me because it is just a really lazy, convenient explanation for it, which is why I mentioned it in my review and why I said the script is bad. _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Algren
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Re: Wonder Woman Dil wrote: I really wanted to like this, but count me as one of those guys whose completely dumb founded by all the praise. Welcome to the club.  _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Speevy
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Re: Wonder Woman I don't get the praise either. This was far too predictable, too similar to the first Captain America film, and had Gal Gadot whining every other line. She really can't act.
Oh, and that boss fight at the end was terrible.
Grade: C
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Algren
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Re: Wonder Woman I expected less than a C with that review, Speevy.  _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Jmart
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Re: Wonder Woman Algren wrote: Jmart wrote: Algren wrote: I am not totally surprised. The same portion of KJ also thinks that Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiig, Kate McKinnon, and Leslie Jones are funny. They are. Just not necessarily together. Or if you're Leslie Jones, on Saturday Night Live, who can't read a cue card to save her life. You like them too, except McKinnon. Algren wrote: Ghostbusters
I quite enjoyed this. The two anchors, Melissa McCarthy and Kristen Wiig, were very good, especially Wigg. McKinnon was annoying as hell and not funny in the slightest (she should be dropped from any sequel). And Leslie Jones was also present (surprisingly not too irritating). The cameos worked well, and I for one loved seeing them (apart from Weaver, by which point it seemed like overkill and was pretty lame as a cameo anyway). Chris Hemsworth steals the show here. He was the cause of 90% of the humour, which is embarrassing when you've got so many actual comedians in the film! But who cares. I can't say "the film was a blast", but it was at least a pleasant surprise. I don't have any nostalgic bias towards the original Ghostbusters films, which made it easier for me to swallow this remake/reboot.
The effects are superb, the film nips along at a really digestible pace, each character is written well enough that they stand out as having their own personality (even if it is somewhat copied from the male Ghostbusters), and it even has some jumpy scenes. All in all, not a bad remake/reboot.
B Good try, smart ass. But I never said they were funny. They were just there having no impact whatsoever. Meanwhile, Hemsworth who is in the film for probably 20 minutes, is responsible for 90 percent of the humor. B it is! Who knew you were that easy to please? _________________My DVD Collection
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Libs
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Re: Wonder Woman Dil wrote: I agree that MoS, BvS and SS all have major problems, but even at their worst they are still better than anything in this. 
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Chippy
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Re: Wonder Woman Honestly, if you rate Suicide Squad higher than this, I think you have brain damage. (And I LIKE Suicide Squad!)
Anyway...
1. Wonder Woman (A)
2. Man of Steel (A)
3. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (B/B+)
4. Suicide Squad (B-)
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Dil
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Re: Wonder Woman Suicide Squad is a fucking mess, but yes I would honestly rather watch that again than this. At least I can get some good entertainment out of it with the Deadshot/Harley Quinn stuff. This on the other hand I got really no enjoyment out of what so ever and that's what makes it a worse movie IMO. People can disagree all they want and that's fine, but this movie is far from perfect and just because it's not dark and gloomy shouldn't be the reason it's getting the pass.
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Chippy
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Re: Wonder Woman Yep, millions and millions of people are "giving it a pass". Solid logic.
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Dil
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Re: Wonder Woman Chippy wrote: Yep, millions and millions of people are "giving it a pass". Solid logic. Well how else would you explain more people not complaining about the shitty villains or that lame third act/final fight? The Marvel movies get plenty of shit for their weak villains yet people seem to just overlook it here. It's not even that I'm really mad at general audiences either because I can see why they would like it, but critics not addressing it all is what bothers me the most.
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Libs
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Re: Wonder Woman Dil wrote: Chippy wrote: Yep, millions and millions of people are "giving it a pass". Solid logic. Well how else would you explain more people not complaining about the shitty villains or that lame third act/final fight? The Marvel movies get plenty of shit for their weak villains yet people seem to just overlook it here. It's not even that I'm really mad at general audiences either because I can see why they would like it, but critics not addressing it all is what bothers me the most. At least for me, I didn't care that this had a mediocre villain or kind of a whatever final showdown. Not really what I was there for.
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Chippy
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Re: Wonder Woman Dil wrote: Chippy wrote: Yep, millions and millions of people are "giving it a pass". Solid logic. Well how else would you explain more people not complaining about the shitty villains or that lame third act/final fight? The Marvel movies get plenty of shit for their weak villains yet people seem to just overlook it here. It's not even that I'm really mad at general audiences either because I can see why they would like it, but critics not addressing it all is what bothers me the most. That is the complaint in almost EVERY review that I read. Marvel gets great reviews despite poor villains EVERY FILM. It's literally overlooked ALL THE TIME. _________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Re: Wonder Woman Yes, I want a great villain. And DC tends to have that usually. No, Ares isn't great in this. But he was better than Doomsday. And he wasn't nearly as campy as most CBM villains, despite him being a Greek God.
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Dil
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Re: Wonder Woman Magnus wrote: Chippy wrote: That is the complaint in almost EVERY review that I read. Marvel gets great reviews despite poor villains EVERY FILM. It's literally overlooked ALL THE TIME.  The villains of WW are definitely a flaw of the film but people are acting as if this is some strange thing when it literally occurs in 99% of MCU films (and Fox's Marvels films...and other DC films that don't have Batman). Okay and I can understand that if the movie was better, but it's not and the truth is I found these villains to be a million times worse than any of the villains from the MCU films. I mean you have a fucking scene where they kill a bunch of people in a room with poisonous gas and laugh about it like some shit straight out of a Saturday morning cartoon. Now, unless I'm crazy I don't remember seeing anything that bad from any Marvel movie, but you guys would probably know better than me.
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zwackerm
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Re: Wonder Woman I thought Ego was very good for Marvel, but his turn was too abrupt.
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Re: Wonder Woman zwackerm wrote: I thought Ego was very good for Marvel, but his turn was too abrupt. I agree with that _________________
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The Dark Shape
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Re: Wonder Woman Dil wrote: Chippy wrote: Yep, millions and millions of people are "giving it a pass". Solid logic. Well how else would you explain more people not complaining about the shitty villains or that lame third act/final fight? They have. The strength of the film is that those problems don't sink it. Anyhoo, ratings! 1. Wonder Woman - B+ 2. Man of Steel - C+ 3. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (Ultimate Edition) - C 4. Suicide Squad - D+
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thompsoncory
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Re: Wonder Woman 1. Wonder Woman - A-
2. Man Of Steel - C
3. Suicide Squad - C-
4. Batman v. Superman - D-
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Brian
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Re: Wonder Woman 1. Batman v Superman Ultimate Edition : 10/10
2. Man of Steel : 10/10
3. Wonder Woman : 9.25/10
4. Suicide Squad : 8/10
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Algren
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Re: Wonder Woman Libs wrote: Dil wrote: Chippy wrote: Yep, millions and millions of people are "giving it a pass". Solid logic. Well how else would you explain more people not complaining about the shitty villains or that lame third act/final fight? The Marvel movies get plenty of shit for their weak villains yet people seem to just overlook it here. It's not even that I'm really mad at general audiences either because I can see why they would like it, but critics not addressing it all is what bothers me the most. At least for me, I didn't care that this had a mediocre villain or kind of a whatever final showdown. Not really what I was there for. Sure. Walking in you'd already given it an A.  _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Re: Wonder Woman Dil wrote: I mean you have a fucking scene where they kill a bunch of people in a room with poisonous gas and laugh about it like some shit straight out of a Saturday morning cartoon. Now, unless I'm crazy I don't remember seeing anything that bad from any Marvel movie. This. Dil wrote: Suicide Squad is a fucking mess, but yes I would honestly rather watch that again than this. At least I can get some good entertainment out of it with the Deadshot/Harley Quinn stuff. This on the other hand I got really no enjoyment out of what so ever and that's what makes it a worse movie IMO. And this. I only rank Suicide Squad slightly higher; but it's got a better sound track and has a bit of wacky goodness. I'd say the Deadshot on a car scene isn't worse than Wonder Woman in No Man's land.
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Re: Wonder Woman stuffp wrote: It's worst superhero film I ever recall watching. In regards to this statement; I just remembered Fantastic Four (2015), and wow, that's not an inch better than this.
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Re: Wonder Woman stuffp wrote: stuffp wrote: It's worst superhero film I ever recall watching. In regards to this statement; I just remembered Fantastic Four (2015), and wow, that's not an inch better than this. I actually liked parts of F4 but... that really sucks for you. 
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Algren
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Re: Wonder Woman lol, the No Man's Land sequence. Idiots on KJ are talking about this as if it's the new Bullet Time.
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