Said like a true Trump supporter.

Excuse me, but you don't have this right. When I said "tired shit," I was talking about Algren no doubt jumping on my review and mocking me for being a woman who, gasp, gave a positive review to a female superhero movie. That's why I wrote a preemptive note before my review, it has nothing to do with Algren's opinion on the movie (which...like I said, I have him on ignore, so I don't know what he thought of it).

I would like to be able to watch and review movies in peace without being attacked for it, like he has done to me for years. That is all. It doesn't feel like much to ask.

The difference between Price and Algren's post is that one can probably assume Price's was entirely tongue-in-cheek.

Algren, on the other hand, does not have a single self-aware bone in his body.

Let me just stop you there....that never happened. Talk about victimizing yourself.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. I need to see it again asap. I missed some dialogues cause people were laughing.

Another thing I disliked (and feel was a missed opportunity) was that Wonder Woman never felt truly super. She had a shield and a sword, and ok, she stops bullets with her lightning fast reactions and metal pads on her wrists, but she did not give me the impression of being super strong or being able to fly (she jumps like the Hulk?). I am not too familiar with Wonder Woman, I guess, but I thought she was as strong and as capable of flight as Superman is. Regardless, I felt she wasn't all that remarkable for a superhero in 2017 considering what we've seen in the past decade.

My advice: ignore him completely. But by completely I mean don't even mention him, no matter what he says. This forum is relatively small, so everyone knows how everyone ticks. Even if he mentions you, people will know it's the usual stick and just move on, not paying any attention.
But by making yourself the victim, you fuel further attacks which to tell the truth, make this forum much more interesting than any of Chippy's 59000+ posts.

This forum's unwillingness to address Algren represents a moral failure that has led to multiple posters abandoning this site.

Correct.

Name those posters.

Algren is a value to this forum. He is a consistently amusing, challenging, intelligent, and distinctive voice. Boo to people who would sand him and other idiosyncratic posters away until the forum is just people politely reciting tidily anodyne observations to one another.

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Take your pick

Does Algren really bully anyone besides Libs? Like consistently? He makes jabs at everyone from time to time, but she's the only regular one.

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It's hilarious that you're "OK!" with bullying, as long as it's just one person, and that person is a girl.

Algren certainly has never bullied Jack Sparrow. Not at all.

He has made repeated sexist, racist, and outright hateful comments in the past. Or is that the sort of "amusing, challenging" voice that you think should go unpunished?

He probes and prods taboos, sure.

You could accuse Magnus of sexism and racism, too, if you perused the entirety of his posting history, and he was handed the key to the entire forum.

I don't want a forum strictly consisting of people who blur together. Firebrands and eccentrics add spice and dimension.

This is...mediocre verging on all right. It is obscenely undeserving, in my opinion, of the sterling critical reception. Critics are choosing to ignore so many trite or poorly calculated beats: the cliché, for instance, of the talented British character actor playing an underdeveloped, ultra-expository antagonist who transforms into a video-game monster for the let's-throw-each-other-into-big-boxes-and-pavement final fight. Yawn. It also feels its length, a not-inconsiderable two hours and 21 minutes. The second act is far and away the best, with the modest scenes of fish-out-of-water comedy and political intrigue in London and the, I admit, spectacularly conceived, shot, and cut no-man's-land action sequence. I could not invest in the first act...too camp, too plastic, too big-budget Xena: Warrior Princess. And the third is just an unwieldy, overwrought lump of nothing. The airfield scenes become interminable, with everyone racing to and fro, explaining everything to one another, saving the world, having personal revelations. Chris Pine delivers a charismatic performance, and his appeal as a foil elevates Gal Gadot's pleasant-but-one-note performance. I understand people so badly want this to movie to be a big deal, to be more—they want the catharsis provided by those social-media pictures of small girls staring with wide eyes at the poster because THIS IS A GAME CHANGER—but the actual product, I feel, just plays as another in-one-ear-and-out-the-other superhero programmer.

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I want to navigate this with great care lest I be decreed a chauvinist pig, but isn't it a problem (for people who claim to view this from a feminist perspective) how the film is so obsessed with Wonder Woman being this GORGEOUS specimen? A male character isn't sure whether to be aroused or horrified by her supernatural competency, but either way she is on a pedestal. So many gags revolve around how she is just SO beautiful and statuesque and hot and cannot help but turn heads and silence a room, etc., etc. Is this Charlie's Angels-evoking idea of Women Who Kick Ass (And Still Turn You On) preferable to, say, what James Cameron and Linda Hamilton did with Sarah Connor 26 years ago?

Did I fucking say it was Ok? Don't put fucking words in my mouth asshole. I indeed think that Algren is a Bully and what he does to Libs is unacceptable. Go fuck yourself.

I most certainly am not a Billy!

Beautifully put.

Wonder Woman is the kind of film where it's hard to find anything good about it. To reel of my displeasures. Gal Gadot proves to be not capable of leading a film, she does not have the acting range or aura to put a film on her back. The action is often rendered boring with an overuse of slow-motion. The score is nothing particular, the wonder woman theme is cool but so very sparingly used. Danny Huston is just one of the worst villains I've seen in a film before. Then there's more other annoyances too. About the topic of feminism which seems to surround this film, it feels very much like it's forced in, but also I didn't even found it helped it's cause. Mainly because Wonder Woman appears just so naive in the whole film. Sure, book smart and physically strong, but also clumsy and foolish in her thinking sometimes. Also moments like, "oh, I love ice-cream" and "love is what made her conquer evil" make Wonder Woman more like a character in a chick-flick. Well enough about that, the script simply isn't very good either, most of the dialogue is cringe worthy. It's worst superhero film I ever recall watching. The things I did like, Chris Pine was a cool supporting character, but I found it odd he played a British soldier with his American accent. Connie Nielsen and Robin Wright had nice roles in the beginning of the film too. Some of the action scenes are surely cool too, but nothing we haven't or don't see anywhere else. On a last note the setting of how it incorporated the settings of World War I didn't work for me either.
Well that's about it.

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Good review. It really is one of the worst superhero films I can recall watching as well. But I did not hate it. I was more just severely underwhelmed at how basic in plot and action and impressive moments it was.



I did not think this was an issue or oversight on DC's part. But as you brought it up, I guess it is a similar case to Brad Pitt's character in Allied.



I also got the impression she was a bit stupid. I mean, she ultimately is correct, but the film does not paint her this way. The film tars her with the "oh please shut up about your mythological ideas" brush, which undermines the film's feminist ambitions.

I did not hate it either, but I did feel very unsatisfied and was expecting more. It's not as uneven as BvS or SS, but to counter that it's just consistently more bad. I enjoyed it a little bit too, but a little bit doesn't get it far enough.



And I did think about this, but at least there he was considered as an American, working for the British, he played a Canadian even I thought, speaking French too as an asset for the job. The Max Vartan character simply makes much more sense to me than Steven Trevor did, although Pine himself surely was good.



Yeah, exactly what I felt.