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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67041
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
zwackerm wrote: Algren wrote: zwackerm wrote: Between this and Angry Birds, it is clear Algren has the worst taste in animated movies in the history of mankind. Which animated films would one need to like in order to have good taste? Up and Finding Nemo. Yes, because Finding Nemo and The Good Dinosaur are SO different.
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stuffp
Keeping it Light
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
zwackerm wrote: Algren wrote: zwackerm wrote: Between this and Angry Birds, it is clear Algren has the worst taste in animated movies in the history of mankind. Which animated films would one need to like in order to have good taste? Up Kind of
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Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:39 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20345 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Algren wrote: zwackerm wrote: Algren wrote: zwackerm wrote: Between this and Angry Birds, it is clear Algren has the worst taste in animated movies in the history of mankind. Which animated films would one need to like in order to have good taste? Up and Finding Nemo. Yes, because Finding Nemo and The Good Dinosaur are SO different. The good Dinosaur is a forgettable, sappy ripoff of Finding Nemo with bad characters.
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Algren
now we know
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
zwackerm wrote: The good Dinosaur is a forgettable, sappy ripoff of Finding Nemo with bad characters. Do you honestly believe that Finding Nemo is original?
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Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:25 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Algren wrote: zwackerm wrote: The good Dinosaur is a forgettable, sappy ripoff of Finding Nemo with bad characters. Do you honestly believe that Finding Nemo is original? Well, I'm sure it borrows elements from other things but on the whole it is quite fresh. The Goid Dinosaur literally feels like it came off an assembly line, or another studi trying to mimic the Pixar formula.
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Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:00 pm |
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Algren wrote: zwackerm wrote: The good Dinosaur is a forgettable, sappy ripoff of Finding Nemo with bad characters. Do you honestly believe that Finding Nemo is original? You're being ridiculous now. You can break down pretty much every story to something that has been said/done before. FN is an original.
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Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:11 pm |
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Algren
now we know
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
I don't believe saying Finding Nemo isn't original is any more ridiculous as saying The Good Dinosaur also isn't. The only difference is that more people like the former and therefore it is seen as ok to use this as a negative point towards TGD but not towards FN. Looking at them both equally, they're highly unoriginal - not that I care, but zwackerm brought it up.
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Obviously you care. And just for reference, what recent movies do you find to be original?
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67041
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Well, Captain America: Civil War obviously.
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Meh, this was OK. I thought it was fairly cute, and didn't mind the odd placed Dino animation by the end. The overall animation was incredible.
B-?
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23778 Location: Classified
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Flava'd vs The World wrote: This was so close to being another Pixar masterpiece. It has so many great elements. It's like Finding Nemo and How To Train Your Dragon had a baby and hooked up with the child of Monsters and Brave. The broken condom from that encounter resulted in The Good Dinosaur. The score is powerful and moving, emulating the best of high fantasy by setting the tone for the world and the adventure about to take place in it. The mirrored man/beast bonding tale is fun to watch and a unique way to take on this familar storyline. The dinosaur animations take some getting used to, but the environment is just beatifully done. All of the establishing shots are breattaking. And the side characters met along the way are as memorable and hilarious as the best of Pixar. Just about everything works. Except Arlo.
Arlo is seriously the worst. His voice is whiny and annoying. His personality is whiny and annoying. I get that a hero's journey requires the hero to lack the strength he needs at the start. Without flaws, nobody can relate to a hero. However you have to have something redeemimg to make the audience believe that progress is possible. It reminded me a little of Mike at the beginning of Monsters U, but Mike was at least intelligent and could protect himself with clever quips. Arlo has nothing to latch on to. The only word to describe him is pathetic. His family is awesome and tries to help, but there's nothing they can do with so little screen time. Arlo eventually develops some admirable survival skills and emotional maturity, but he makes the first half of the movie an uncomfortable and irritating experience.
I was ready to give up on the movie before the triceratops-like dino came in and saved the movie. The different dinosaur sects that inhabit the world makes this movie special, despite its massive flaw. I was dying at all of his nicknames and the subsequent nicknaming battle for Spot's soul. The Good Dinosaur also plays with your expectations. The flying dinosaurs seem pretty cool at first, possibly being the ones to help Arlo overcome his fears, before their hunger reveals their true characters. The rexes go from potential predators to awesome cowboys. This kept a predictable story from getting stale and giving great characters screen time to distract from Arlo's awfulness. Arlo eventually becomes a little cool and delivers in the big emotional moment at the end.
So yeah it's a special movie that is worth seeing in theaters. It's just a shame that a tweak in the protaginist could have turned The Good Dinosaur into The Great Dinosaur. Wow I way too enthusiastic for this. I didn't hate Arlo as much this time, but I also didn't like the second half as much (except for the one dinosaur with the birds, who is still funny.) It's all just kinda mediocre. Lowering my grade from a B to a C. I'm gonna watch these movies again in the Pixar Theory order (which assumes they all take place in the same connected universe.)
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
I think the Cars movies are last chronologically after the humans have abandoned the earth
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
According to Pixar Theory, it's Up, Cars, Wall-E, Bugs Life, Monster's. Implying the Monster's are time traveling.
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Pixar Theory... is this something that Pixar posted or fan fiction?
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23778 Location: Classified
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Shack wrote: I think the Cars movies are last chronologically after the humans have abandoned the earth Actually, the one I read believes Cars takes place in the years that humans abandoned the Earth pre-Wall*E. Then humans return, fail at surviving, thus leading to Monsters Inc and Onward. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pocket ... er.amphtml-The Past Good Dinosaur Brave -50s Incredibles Incredibles 2 -90s Toy Story Toy Story 2 -00s Nemo Dory Ratatouille -10s Toy Story 3 Toy Story 4 Up Inside Out Coco -Post Apocalypse Cars Cars 2 Cars 3 Wall-E -Post-Post Apocalypse A Bug’s Life Monsters U Monsters Inc Onward (I’m guessing)
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 37995
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Flava'd vs The World wrote: Shack wrote: I think the Cars movies are last chronologically after the humans have abandoned the earth Actually, the one I read believes Cars takes place in the years that humans abandoned the Earth pre-Wall*E. Then humans return, fail at surviving, thus leading to Monsters Inc and Onward. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pocket ... er.amphtmlGood Dinosaur Brave Incredibles Incredibles 2 Toy Story Toy Story 2 Nemo Dory Ratatouille Toy Story 3 Toy Story 4 Up Inside Out Coco Cars Cars 2 Cars 3 Wall-E A Bug’s Life Monsters U Monsters Inc Onward (I’m guessing) Yea but the Earth isn’t too polluted in Cars. Or were the Cars the one that polluted the Earth? What if the monsters travel from an alternate universe instead of the future?
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23778 Location: Classified
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Yeah it's a stretch, I guess the implication is that the Cars rebuilt the world? But then it went to shit again when after they went extinct?
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Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:04 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
That is a stretch looks like a fan fiction in response to my original question.
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23778 Location: Classified
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Jack Sparrow wrote: That is a stretch looks like a fan fiction in response to my original question. More like fictional conspiracy theory but it was a fun read.
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18877 Location: San Diego
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
God this movie sucks. A stain in Pixar's filmography. (Cars films are more mediocre than bad)
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
Yea in retrospect this is the crummiest Pixar
Edit - Actually I forgot how much I dislike Monsters University
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zwackerm
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
This is the only boring Pixar film. The Cars films are all at least mildly involving.
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: The Good Dinosaur
It doesn't do anything with its premise in the end and while it does well with the characters and their growth the whole reason for its existence does not feel necessary. The friendship aspects are done really well though specially without any speaking aspects. The whole middle act with the dinosaurs is/was terribly painful to sit through, its not funny but something that was shoe-horned to keep kids engaged.
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