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roo
invading your spaces
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
Zingaling wrote: film that doesn't play by the rules (things like killing the child first - intense and unpredictable), makes a statement, kinda toys with the audience (showing what would happen in a normal thriller, then rewinding it? Did you notice that all the very violent episodes are shown offscreen except for the one that was undone. I liked the idea of both satisfying the audience's bloodlust/revenge and then ripping it away.
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Sad-man
Speed Racer
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:07 am Posts: 172 Location: Argentina
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
Shouldn't there be spoiler warnings?
Anyway, this was really good, just as good as the original.
8/10
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 37993
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
Spoilers are allowed in the Critics forum
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Bradley Witherberry
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
Sad-man wrote: Shouldn't there be spoiler warnings? Shack wrote: Spoilers are allowed in the Critics forum I wish the admins would just post something explaining that spoilers are allowed here - - perhaps in the sub-forum description - - so that we don't keep getting this same question over and over again. This is just a rough draft, but I suggest something like the following: Quote: * Spoilers * This is the place to give us YOUR reviews on the movies you have seen. Discussion of movies is welcomed, but please do not comment if you have not previously seen the movie! Spoilers are ALLOWED inside. * Spoilers *
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:48 pm Posts: 11019
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
In theory, I think the movie's interesting. In practice...somewhat tedious. The trailer got most of these ideas across anyway.
I'm still not sure what I'm being scolded for. Watching violent movies? Is that more dangerous than self-satisfied art pictures?
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Sad-man
Speed Racer
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:07 am Posts: 172 Location: Argentina
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
Bradley Witherberry wrote: Sad-man wrote: Shouldn't there be spoiler warnings? Shack wrote: Spoilers are allowed in the Critics forum I wish the admins would just post something explaining that spoilers are allowed here - - perhaps in the sub-forum description - - so that we don't keep getting this same question over and over again. This is just a rough draft, but I suggest something like the following: Quote: * Spoilers * This is the place to give us YOUR reviews on the movies you have seen. Discussion of movies is welcomed, but please do not comment if you have not previously seen the movie! Spoilers are ALLOWED inside. * Spoilers * Yes, but still...there's no harm in including a spoiler warning.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
Sad-man wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: Sad-man wrote: Shouldn't there be spoiler warnings? Shack wrote: Spoilers are allowed in the Critics forum I wish the admins would just post something explaining that spoilers are allowed here - - perhaps in the sub-forum description - - so that we don't keep getting this same question over and over again. This is just a rough draft, but I suggest something like the following: Quote: * Spoilers * This is the place to give us YOUR reviews on the movies you have seen. Discussion of movies is welcomed, but please do not comment if you have not previously seen the movie! Spoilers are ALLOWED inside. * Spoilers * Yes, but still...there's no harm in including a spoiler warning. There is indeed harm. It prevents the full, open, and honest discussion of the hidden and finer points of a movie. Having to guard our words at every turn, blunts them. It is essential to refrain from glimpsing the forbidden secrets within this holy forum until one has drank from the river of experience...
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:03 am |
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Sad-man
Speed Racer
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:07 am Posts: 172 Location: Argentina
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
LOL. Okay.
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
So you have to read the director's intentions before watching the movie? Well, I didn't and I guess that's why I found it tedious. If it's a joke on the audience I didn't get it and I am willing to admit that. It's not like I was even rooting for the family, I didn't care after a certain point. Maybe it's the fact that they felt the audience needed to let the kid's death sink in, but there's about 10 minutes after the shooting where literally nothing happens. Make me care about the characters first if you want to play the rewind joke on me because at that point I didn't even care if I was being messed with. I guess I can respect as a satire in some way, but as a movie...
- D+
P.S. I guess I had a problem with it's realism also, but it's that's how the director wanted it whatever.
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:57 am |
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Sad-man
Speed Racer
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:07 am Posts: 172 Location: Argentina
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
The kid's death scene is brilliant. Just because the characters don't move or say anthing doesn't mean nothing is happening. A LOT is happening during that scene. They stay silent for so long and what's the mother's reaction? To turn off the tv. BRILLIANT.
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
I guess I really didn't get it if turning off the tv is brilliant.
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Sad-man
Speed Racer
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:07 am Posts: 172 Location: Argentina
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
It's fine if you didn't like the movie. I still think that scene is absolutely brilliant.
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
Well i thought it was rather boring, pointless and that was what really made me hate this movie. It had no point whatsoever, just two guys gets in "rich" peoples houses and kills them for no reason at all.
And what the hell was up with Pitt's characters talking to the audiences and the rewind button?!... Maybe i didnt get something i dont know but that was rather odd and made me hate even more the movie.
D+
Can i compared this to The Strangers? because at least that movie was fun.
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
Not the masterpiece I was expecting (and hoping for), but still rather brilliant.
It'd be too easy to dismiss it as merely Haneke toying with his audience and chastising them for enjoying violent movies, but I think its ideas run much deeper than that. I never got a sense that I was being punished - more like I was being examined and critiqued. It's a horror film that totally understands its intentions and the intentions of its viewer, and exploits that for maximum effect. Every time Paul turns to the camera and speaks to us, he's not insulting our intelligence or questioning our interest in the events - he's merely manipulating us, just as he does to the family. When the film rewinds, taking away our satisfied feeling from the vengeful act, it's just another form of torture - another 'funny game' being played on us. It's a brilliant meta film, because it treats its audience just as it treats its characters - not with contempt, but with sadism.
My only problem was that I wanted more. I wanted more breaking the fourth wall, I wanted more games played, I wanted more of its brilliance shining through. Perhaps I'm the kind of viewer that deserved to be critiqued, mocked, insulted, but if that's the case, then the film is even more brilliant, for it works even better for the viewers who need it. Am I sadistic, disturbing film watcher? Maybe. Do I need to be examined? Perhaps. Is this film the thing to do it? Why not?
Perhaps a bit better in concept than in execution, but still an insightful, intriguing work.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Re: Funny Games U.S.
matatonio wrote: Can i compared this to The Strangers? because at least that movie was fun. I can't believe you would reveal such a shocking truth about yourself!
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67039
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Re: Funny Games (2008)
No happy ending here. What a film. Jesus. One long punishment with no repercussions. It is shocking stuff, and I admire cinema of this ilk because only a handful of people in the world are doing it (the shock stuff, not the deeper intention), which to be fair is probably similar to the amount of people actually seeking it (proportionate to how many directors are actually active). It is risky stuff but so damn powerful. I was on the edge of my seat, heart thumping, with my mouth open for most of it, which I cannot say the same for Trier films, for example. Then it ends and ... I cannot believe it.
Eden Lake is a similar shocker to this, but that hit harder possibly because I saw it at a younger age. But this is a much better made film. It's not often that you see a film that toys with your emotions. Usually films follow a formula and they end with an outcome where you can leave the cinema just as you entered it. Funny Games isn't one of those films. It is self-aware and steals the audience's triumph just as those two psychopaths steal Ann's. I guess this film also analyses the viewer, or presents a platform to self-analyse. The fact that all I could wonder as the credits rolled was whether there is a sequel tells me a lot about my psyche. Not that I believed for a second there is a sequel in existence, but needing the satisfaction of retribution to just not see the bad guys win, despite myself actually rooting for villains in most films, answers questions that most films don't even ask. That is why I think this film is pretty much a masterpiece. I know that word gets thrown around a lot. But take it as you will.
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