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Dunkirk is a 2017 English language war film[nb 1] written, co-produced and directed by Christopher Nolan. The film stars Fionn Whitehead, Tom Glynn-Carney, Jack Lowden, Harry Styles, Aneurin Barnard, James D'Arcy, Barry Keoghan, Kenneth Branagh, Cillian Murphy, Mark Rylance and Tom Hardy. Set during the Second World War, it concerns the Dunkirk evacuation. Distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures, the film is an international co-production between the United Kingdom, the United States, France and the Netherlands.

Nolan wrote the script, told from three perspectives–the land, sea and air–to contain little dialogue and create suspense solely through details. Filming began in May 2016 in Dunkirk, France, and ended in Los Angeles, United States, where it also began post-production. Cinematographer Hoyte van Hoytema shot the film on IMAX 65 mm and 65 mm large format film stock. The film made extensive use of practical effects such as employing 6,000 extras, assembling boats that had participated in the real Dunkirk evacuation, and using genuine era-appropriate planes for aerial sequences.

Dunkirk had its world premiere on 13 July 2017 at Odeon Leicester Square in London, England, and is scheduled to be released in the United Kingdom and United States on 21 July 2017, in IMAX, 70 mm and 35 mm film.

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One of the most intense movies I've seen in a long time, and it absolutely demands to be seen on the big screen. A


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The whole sequence where it intercuts between the pilot stuck in his cockpit in the ocean, the soldiers hiding in the boat getting shot at and Hardy being tailed on his plane almost gave me a nervous breakdown. The whole movie is a masterclass in editing.

This is also one of Hans Zimmer's best scores ever.

It's assured a boatload of Oscar nominations (except in the acting categories - everyone is great including Harry Styles actually, but this isn't an 'actors' movie' in any way).


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Reserving post for my A++++ review

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Reserving post for my A++++ review

reserve another post talking about what's wrong with it if it under performs.


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I will have more to say tomorrow but it's perhaps the least enjoyable Nolan blockbuster but probably the single best cinematic experience he's ever created. I don't think I can ever see this except in 70mm IMAX.

It's almost as if Nolan is getting so fed up with people claiming the theatrical experience doesn't matter that he decides to create one of the most unique theatrical experiences in the modern era. It's going to be a shame that people will watch this movie on laptops and tablets. It won't even be a tenth of the same experience.

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Whoever said Michael Caine wasn't in this movie was a fucking liar.

Oh, and hands down loudest movie I've ever heard. Holy shit.

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Christopher Nolan's dramatization of the Dunkirk evacuation is undoubtedly an aural and visual masterpiece: the interplay of majestic, vertiginous aerial footage and steely-blue scenes of on-the-ground chaos; the cacophonous timepiece score. It is a film of constant, armrest-clenching suspense and spectacle. And though it results in an extraordinary ensemble cast, including Kenneth Branagh, Tom Hardy, and Cillian Murphy, being slightly underutilized, the foregrounding of incident, procedure, and in-the-moment experience over conventional character development is ultimately a clever way to submerge the viewer in the soldiers' fraught and uncertain mindset. Who's who is obscured by the crashing of waves, the roaring of aircraft, and the stinging whistle of gunfire. I have one significant qualm: though he has employed it incredibly well in prior films, most notably the game-changing Memento, Nolan's use of a nonlinear structure here registers as busy and pretentious. I adore his idea of presenting the evacuation from the perspectives of air, land, and sea, but I am not convinced the film is enriched by having those three prongs complicatedly intertwine as events play out multiple times from alternating vantage points. The manipulation of timelines never results in a glorious a-ha moment or a deeper understanding of the story and its players. It just feels decorative and can even be a tad confusing.

B+

Also, this sounds more critical than I intend, but the film is never particularly moving. When it tries—say, the death of the "I'll be useful, sir!" teenager on the boat or Branagh declaring he'll stay for the French!—it is a bit feeble. But I am going to allow it because there are more than enough great war tearjerkers. Oddly, the moment I found most moving is Hardy's character setting his plane on fire and being captured.

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1. Inception
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Quick question though and I'll put it in a spoiler since it's opening night.

I love Zimmer and I think his score for this is pretty fucking fantastic. However, there's one key scene on a boat towards the end where the dialogue gets muffled a little bit because of the score. If I heard correctly, was
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Mark Rylance Tom Hardy's father?
Because if that's true, there's no better "a-ha" moment this year.

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No. His son was a pilot who died earlier in the war.

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Yeah, I realized driving home that the timelines didn't match. That seems like a missed opportunity. It might of come off incredibly corny and maybe that's why he avoided it (or the thought never crossed his mind as he's probably more focused on the three separate acts of heroism, but it was on the cornball tee.

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I need to chew on it. The timelines didn't come together quite as cleanly as I would have liked, but I feel like it could play better upon second viewing when I have a better grasp of how everything interlocks.

Right now, it's hovering in the B+/A- range.

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I am a bit confused as to how Styles' group ended up out at sea where Rylance rescues them. Were they on the boat which tips after being bombed?

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Hm.... definitely one that becomes more favorable as I think about it. I don't think My audience liked it lol


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Hm.... definitely one that becomes more favorable as I think about it. I don't think My audience liked it lol


The reactions are going to be pretty divisive with general audiences. On the South Korea version of IMDB, it is already rated the second lowest of Nolan's movies next to Insomnia. Probably headed for a lower rating in a hurry.

The South Korea situation is a pretty big red flag if you think this movie is going to have great WOM with the general audience. South Korea has worshiped the hell out of Nolan's big budget work for years. Interstellar was a phenomenal success in that country.


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Easily the most intense experience I had in cinema. I watched this at imax 70mm dome. That wasn't fun but the experience was super immersive. None of the characters registered and as David said the multiple timelines did not intersect as well as how inception worked. But this was definitely one of a kind experience.

Definitely will be divisive though my audience(in bay area) clapped at the end. I hope it opens big enough to be successful.

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The timelines could have been a bit tighter but it's absolutely fundamental to the film and experience that you have three separate timelines that converge together. The relentless of the film, which is its major strength, relies on the inter changing sequences. A linear film would not have the same effect. The film never lets up because of the back and forth. Nolan could have done a better job juggling all of them (Inception is a better executed timeline juggle) but I'm very opposed to the idea that a linear approach would have been better.

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more thoughts:

-The cinematography is impeccable. The vividness of the images on the 70mm IMAX is something you just don't see in 99.99% of films. Hoyte manages to find beautiful haunting imagery throughout the chaos that is going on. There's a shot of the three lads, after surviving the torpedo attack, lying on the beach at night with the waves slowly crashing into them that is at once beautiful, mesmzering, somber, and haunting. I can't wait to see some shot-by-shot breakdown of this. Theres just so much to absorb from it all.

-That fucking score. It just penetrates to the heart and keeps the pulse going throughout. It's loud, it's tense, it's scary, and completely nerve wrecking.

-The overall relentlessness of this film makes the 1hr 47min completely justified. I don't think I could have had this be over two hours. It drains you enough.

-The cast know their fucking roles and own it. No one tries to overact or steal the show. They play their part perfectly. Even Harry fucking Styles.

-Those fucking aerial sequences. It was almost like playing the greatest plane simulator ever created. Absolutely thrilling and easily the most "entertaining" aspect of the film.

Kubrick made two of the greatest anti-war movies with Paths of Glory and FMJ. Speilberg made a great ode to the "glory" of WW2. Nolan has made something in the middle. Dunkirk is not anti-war but it doesn't evoke this sense of triumph that other war movies have. It's a cold, haunting tale that basically boils war down to just surviving. Why the soldiers are there, what they're fighting for, who they're fighting for, etc. doesn't matter. At the end of the day, surviving is good enough. Our protagonists (minus Tom Hardy/Rylancd who are the films only real "classic" hero) are not heroes for surviving. They merely are alive at the end of it. We are left in awe of their effort to stay alive, even if they didn't do anything to defeat the enemy.

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And LLLLLIIIISSSSTTTTT

1. Memento
2. The Dark Knight
3. The Prestige
4. Inception
5. Dunkirk
6. Batman Begins
7. Interstellar
8. The Dark Knight Rises
9. Following
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Oh and to be a bit critical:

-The plot with the young boy is a bit out of place and weak as the film can't emotionally carry it (even though all the acting with those scenes is strong)

-As mentioned, the non linear approach is fundamental but it still could have been better executed

-The dialogue is a bit hard at times to understand due to all other noise

-The film works so well in IMAX 70mm that I think it will be significantly different even in a regular movie theater. This isn't a issue but it does mean the film will just naturally be viewed be differently from everyone. It creates almost like a "original cut vs. directors cut" debate. I can totally understand people not liking it as much if they don't see it in 70mm.

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I will have more to say tomorrow but it's perhaps the least enjoyable Nolan blockbuster but probably the single best cinematic experience he's ever created.


100% agree. This was an experience, and you never even got to see an enemy's face. You feel their fear, their despair, and the danger every step of the way; it's relentless. To survive was truly a miracle.


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-The film works so well in IMAX 70mm that I think it will be significantly different even in a regular movie theater. This isn't a issue but it does mean the film will just naturally be viewed be differently from everyone. It creates almost like a "original cut vs. directors cut" debate. I can totally understand people not liking it as much if they don't see it in 70mm.


I saw it in RPX on Thursday because I wanted to see it immediately but not make a 75 minute drive to the nearest true IMAX 70mm FILM theater. I plan on making the trip this week. Serious question: earplugs or no earplugs for IMAX? Maybe it's because I was sitting right under a speaker, but I was sitting in my seat with the honest thought of, "Oh my ears might bleed and I wouldn't be surprised; NOLAN!" IMAX even takes it up another notch, right?

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