Presales are looking very strong. its looking like another breakout (100m+ OW). Box office is on fire this summer for sure.

I guess it makes sense, the original adjusting to 300 million+, another cute creature like Stitch.

We were so close to being done with these but now the combo of Stitch and Dragon will keep them going for another ten years and beyond. Rachel Zeggler's reputation died for nothing.

They'll go forever. The next generation will have the Pixar dam break, Frozen, Encanto, etc. and eventually a Shrek.

I think the only lesson Disney learned is "DONT CHANGE ANYTHING." People want the shit the exact same as its always been and don't want the characters to look different from how they remember. If Snow White was going into production today they'd get the whitest girl they could find and real little people. Maybe even recast Charlize as the Evil Queen for some multiverse potential.

I am afraid you are right Flava and it saddens me

Plus even if Little Mermaid with white redhead makes slightly less, it probably makes it back and more internationally.

I think Wicked is an example where racial casting worked and got the internet cheering for it more, but people weren't attached to the original source material in the same way as a movie.

We are box office enthusiasts of the 2000s era. We still think a $100m opening is mother of god. But with 20+ years inflation, a $100m opening is the least a HTTYD live-action remake should open to. $200m is the new mother of god. When Lilo opens to $150m, that will be like when Matrix Reloaded did $91m. The next $200m opener will be akin to Spider-Man's $114m.

Is there any possibility that this underperforms? The marketing is so meh.

Depends on your definition of under performance. I think its unlikely based on how ticket sales have gone. It will be the biggest movie of the month. DOM/OS/WW.

What are the OW indications Keyser? Over or Under $100m?

I also do feel the marketing is a little lacklustre (perhaps Stitch's marketing makes it look that way) but I still expect it to perform.

It could be cutting it close. It started very strong and now stalling a bit. But even if it misses 100m it wont be by that much. I think its at least hitting 90m with fathers day sunday. But let us see how final surge goes. I should know better by Monday next.

Solid reviews at 82% fresh.

I am not seeing 100m OW anymore. Probably close to 80m than 100m. Let us see if things change in final few days.

Do you mean closer to the 80ms, or like closer to 80m flat?

Bummer. The marketing and buzz is indeed muted. It will now depend on walkups.

The marketing is poor. I don't see why a live-action HTTYD is even needed. If it does well it will be because of zombie-like "new movie must go" mentality, not because it's wanted by people.