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Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:45 am ]
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Joker: Folie à Deux - 71

This should be doing 100m+ but yeah, presales lok weak. Think it should pick up, unless the early screenings don't generate at least decent WoM.
Author:  Shack [ Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:05 pm ]
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I'm sticking with my call this has a secret late breaking audience like Venom. But even if it's opens to 80-90 and then has poor legs that's still not that good. Anything below 200 million total is a pretty big failure.
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:24 pm ]
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Even with all the doom and gloom I'd be stunned to see this to go under $100M opening. If it really does open around Flash / Dial of Destiny it'll top Furiosa as the biggest disaster of the year for me (in terms of potential, not budget.)
Author:  Algren [ Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:59 am ]
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I'm with Shack. People will show up for this.
Author:  Excel [ Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:40 pm ]
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The media is just treating like this like a total non-event, it's very strange.
Author:  MadGez [ Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:54 pm ]
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Joker: Folie à Deux - $85m

Sure, this may not grow OW compared to the first, but I don't see a total dud either.

Maybe Friday will be huge and then early WOM (possibly poor due to the musical aspects) will hurt it during the OW weekend - but the OW total should be OK.
Author:  pro1986 [ Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:00 am ]
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There is absolutely nothing in pre-sales that suggest it's doing more than 60 million at this point. Unless this has major walk ups I think we are looking at an opening between the marvels and the flash.
Author:  Algren [ Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:05 pm ]
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Maybe it echoes that the US is in a better place. The first film isn't an uplifting film, yet it did very well. Maybe the US is a healthier country now, and thus not as interested in another downer film.
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:44 pm ]
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Algren wrote:
Maybe it echoes that the US is in a better place. The first film isn't an uplifting film, yet it did very well. Maybe the US is a healthier country now, and thus not as interested in another downer film.
So they should have waited to see if Trump got reelected, banking on him making America miserable again?

Are you saying WB made the same mistake as Russia???
Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:36 pm ]
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Baffling this goes below Venom 2... lol I guess this is more ofva drama than a superhero movie but still.
Author:  Algren [ Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:28 am ]
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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
Algren wrote:
Maybe it echoes that the US is in a better place. The first film isn't an uplifting film, yet it did very well. Maybe the US is a healthier country now, and thus not as interested in another downer film.
So they should have waited to see if Trump got reelected, banking on him making America miserable again?

Are you saying WB made the same mistake as Russia???


I'm not saying either of those things.
Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:35 am ]
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After seeing it... yeah, legs will probably be bad.

It's pretty crazy how DC sequels that should have been easy wins (WW1984, Aquaman and now this) end up disappointing.
Author:  Algren [ Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:42 am ]
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What they're creating with The Batman / Penguin will probably buck that trend. The Batman 2 should do very well.
Author:  Barrabás [ Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:13 am ]
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I feel like The Batman kinda came and went. The first half was brilliant but the second was really disappointing, like if Se7en hadn't had the final twist and it just ended in a generic shootout. I could see the sequel disappointing tbh.
Author:  Keyser Söze [ Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:35 pm ]
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Batman was good. Audience reception was strong. That said sequel's potential is on how good it will be. I think Matt Reeves is much better as a director compared to Todd Philips. So it wont collapse like Joker 2.

On Joker 2 OW I am expecting 8-9m previews including early shows on Monday plus around 60m ish for OW.
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:20 pm ]
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Checked to see it Joker's sales really were as dire as prophesized ... and yes they are lol. The showing I had booked only had like 10-15 tickets sold (as of yesterday evening) and my entire row D was empty ... except for someone who booked a ticket right next to me? Cancelled that shit immediately. Not trying to make friends at Joker. I'll go see Transformers or Wild Robot again instead lol.
Author:  Shack [ Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:30 pm ]
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The bomb is ready to launch
Author:  Algren [ Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:48 pm ]
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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
except for someone who booked a ticket right next to me? Cancelled that shit immediately. Not trying to make friends at Joker.


You could have met your very own Harley Quinn.

Then again, you could have met a DP07. Wise move to cancel. ;)
Author:  Keyser Söze [ Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:05 pm ]
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its looking worse than 2 days ago. With reviews/reaction being abysmal, its not hitting 50m at this point. final surge would be terrible as well. Just similar to Flash and Marvels last year. Anything DC is cursed at this point.
Author:  Barrabás [ Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:07 pm ]
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Twitter posts about mass walkouts are going viral :death: How did this go from one of the surefire big films of the year to catastrophic career-ending bomb in the space of a few weeks
Author:  zwackerm [ Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:30 pm ]
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This is the worst performance for a sequel to a billion dollar movie besides Alice 2
Author:  Malcolm [ Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:02 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote:
This is the worst performance for a sequel to a billion dollar movie besides Alice 2


The Marvels (84dom & 206WW) had a bigger fall from Captain Marvel (427dom & 1.13bilWW). Joker: Folie a Deux would have to top out at less than 140milWW total to beat The Marvels in that race to the bottom.

Not a great club to be a part of, really, whatever the specific results end up being ;)
Author:  Excel [ Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:15 pm ]
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Keyser Söze wrote:
Anything DC is cursed at this point.


I think we all need to realize how quickly WOM spreads in 2024. BAD reviews and WOM will legit lose $20-30m from an opening weekend basically overnight. Add in a horrific marketing campaign? Easy to see how this happened.

They rolled this out as if they thought everyone would love it and there be instant huge interest. Turns out the interest was likely heavily tied to reviews and they were not there at all.
Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:22 pm ]
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Playing this at Venice backfired. In the end yeah, the first one worked great as a single film. This new one doesn't enhance it at all.
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:28 pm ]
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Every film with Joker featured in a prominent role has broken some kind of record (opening weekend twice, August opening and first film to one billion). He's America's favorite fictional villain.
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