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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18876 Location: San Diego
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November 22-24 predictions
Frozen 2 - 190 [realistically I'm expecting 160 but fuck it] A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood - 16 21 Bridges - 12
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Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:10 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23775 Location: Classified
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Pre-sales are a little underwhelming, but who isn't hyped for this movie? I'll predict it to be a mega event until the numbers prove me otherwise. I will not conceal.
Let's say
$17M + $39M + $75M + $50M for $181M opening weekend, maybe a bit more if they really want it to beat Incredibles.
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Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:27 pm |
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Dil
Forum General
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:48 pm Posts: 8942 Location: Houston, Texas
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Frozen 2 - 180 A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood - 20 21 Bridges - 9
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Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:52 pm |
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Mau
100% That Bitch
Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:42 pm Posts: 16897 Location: Monterrey, Mexico
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Frozen $190mil
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Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:20 pm |
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DP07
Homo Dperious
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 14480 Location: Everywhere
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
I hope no one panics or declares it a bomb after school day previews. I remember Shrek 2 opened on a Thursday in May and OD was considered disappointing. But then it broke the single day record by Saturday.
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Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:50 pm |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 22679 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Yeah the big Shrek 2 freak out is classic.
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:41 am |
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18876 Location: San Diego
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Eh. I think previews will still be 10m+. Frozen is appealing not just to children.
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:46 am |
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Magic Mike
Wallflower
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
1. FROZEN 2 - 161.946 MILLION (New) 2. FORD V FERRARI - 18.88 MILLION (-40%) 3. A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD - 14.969 MILLION (New) 4. 21 BRIDGES - 10.13 MILLION (New) 5. MIDWAY - 4.25 MILLION (-50%) 6. PLAYING WITH FIRE - 4.082 MILLION (-51%) 7. LAST CHRISTMAS - 3.636 MILLION (-44%) 8. CHARLIE'S ANGELS - 3.59 MILLION (-57%) 9. THE GOOD LIAR - 3.3 MILLION (-41%) 10. JOKER - 2.829 MILLION (-47%) 11. HARRIET - 2.478 MILLION (-46%) 12. MALEFICENT: MISTRESS OF EVIL - 2.1 MILLION (-57%) 13. DOCTOR SLEEP - 1.68 MILLION (-72%)
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Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:15 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23775 Location: Classified
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Shrek 2 did move up to Wednesday very late though- I think less than a month before release? And that was 2004, before people checked the internet on their phones every 30 seconds.
What if Frozen 2 only has like $7.5M previews? Will it recover over this weekend and next? Certainly. Will people spin it as “it”s going to make more than the first so that is Great”? Definitely. But that low preview will mean it isn’t drawing the non-family audiences en masse like many of us assumed it would, which is a ton of wasted potential. Beauty and the Beast opened on the school night.
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Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:10 pm |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 22679 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
The only way to truly judge Frozen 2's performance is over its first 10 days.
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Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:43 pm |
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DP07
Homo Dperious
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 14480 Location: Everywhere
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Flava'd vs The World wrote: Shrek 2 did move up to Wednesday very late though- I think less than a month before release? And that was 2004, before people checked the internet on their phones every 30 seconds.
What if Frozen 2 only has like $7.5M previews? Will it recover over this weekend and next? Certainly. Will people spin it as “it”s going to make more than the first so that is Great”? Definitely. But that low preview will mean it isn’t drawing the non-family audiences en masse like many of us assumed it would, which is a ton of wasted potential. People were saying the same thing about Shrek 2 getting the non-family audience. I remember the original shrek increased it's non-family share over the course of its run from 20% to 40%. I'm not sure how much of it's popularity outside families is a reflection of the overall popularity of frozen, and how much of it is a percentage difference. Quote: Beauty and the Beast opened on the school night. And the Jungle Book? EDIT: No, Beauty and the Beast did not open on a school night. It was Spring Break. Look at Lego Batman numbers.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:47 am |
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:21 pm Posts: 6166
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
its previews are not strong. Could finish sub 9m. But great presales for the weekend. I am thinking 140m OW.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:53 am |
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DP07
Homo Dperious
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 14480 Location: Everywhere
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Keyser Söze wrote: its previews are not strong. Could finish sub 9m. But great presales for the weekend. I am thinking 140m OW. I just wanted +8m. Not expecting previews to be more then 5% of the weekend.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:15 am |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 37993
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
I feel like this will make as little as a Frozen 2 sequel was going to, which still might be alot. I'm not feeling that the plot and trailers did anything to increase its gross. This could've been top 3 grosser all time if they nailed it but seems like the execution was off
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:43 am |
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Ghostooze
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Sat Jan 29, 2005 3:47 pm Posts: 1406
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Shack wrote: I feel like this will make as little as a Frozen 2 sequel was going to, which still might be alot. I'm not feeling that the plot and trailers did anything to increase its gross. This could've been top 3 grosser all time if they nailed it but seems like the execution was off i have no idea what the story is. but like the first, Frozen is all about the legs, not the opening.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:07 am |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21641 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Shred 2 was a phenomenon and had room to grow off the original. Frozen already had its phenomenon type run. Not everyone would be willing to come back 6 years later, the industry has changed a lot. It will increase, but it’s marketing dropped the ball big time, and the legs won’t be as good Judging from the reception
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:18 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20344 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Thegun wrote: Shred 2 was a phenomenon and had room to grow off the original. Frozen already had its phenomenon type run. Not everyone would be willing to come back 6 years later, the industry has changed a lot. It will increase, but it’s marketing dropped the ball big time, and the legs won’t be as good Judging from the reception The original Shrek sold hardly less tickets than the first Frozen.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:59 am |
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Shrek 2 released in an era where there were hardly any CGI flicks releasing. I think the next one was the incredibles released in November. Also Box office that year was weird. Early may had multiple disappoints(Troy, Van Helsing and even day after tomorrow did not do as well it should have). June had HP3 but that fizzled out after big OD. Only SM2 did great that summer. So Shrek 2 had so much room to run. Now we have monthly CGI flicks opening and calendar is busier. So no way F2 will have a run similar to Shrek 2. Plus F2 still has had big Presales.Dont think Shrek 2 PS was anything worth discussing.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:52 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Didn't the BO go into a slump before F2? I thought most of us discussed that how good it is for Frozen to be released in this atmosphere.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:00 pm |
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Dil
Forum General
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:48 pm Posts: 8942 Location: Houston, Texas
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
It's still going to be considered a big success in the end, but man does this and Toy Story 4's performance make Shrek 2 and Incredibles 2 performances even that much more impressive. It's definitely not that easy for these animated sequels to reach MEGA-EVENT movie status compared to other genres like the superhero movies.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:47 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
These proclamations of doom and gloom are premature. EVERY film opening here has disappointed opening weekend since New Moon, and other than JL and FB:COG, they’ve recovered pretty well over the holiday. This frame is just not one people rush to when there’s a whole week of days off work and school ahead.
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:15 am |
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lilmac
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Joined: Wed May 25, 2005 12:07 am Posts: 3129
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
doom and gloom during a year where the OW was not just beaten but obliterated.
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:13 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 37993
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
If an original movie had Frozen 2's plot and marketing, would it feel like a hit? Fuck no. People don't care about Elsa harmonizing the 4 elements of nature. They cared about advancing the relationships between the characters
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:47 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Shack wrote: If an original movie had Frozen 2's plot and marketing, would it feel like a hit? Fuck no. People don't care about Elsa harmonizing the 4 elements of nature. They cared about advancing the relationships between the characters Agreed its like they completely ignored the first movie here.
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:31 am |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18876 Location: San Diego
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Re: November 22-24 predictions
Shack wrote: If an original movie had Frozen 2's plot and marketing, would it feel like a hit? Fuck no. People don't care about Elsa harmonizing the 4 elements of nature. They cared about advancing the relationships between the characters ... you right lol. For a good chunk of the movie the characters are separated from each other.
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:45 am |
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