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Author: | MGKC [ Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:37 pm ] |
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Weekly Ranking for Oct 28 Full chart with all movies: Spoiler: show Total Gross Projections The Nun - $117.5 million The Predator - $51.2 million A Simple Favor - $53.7 million Fahrenheit 11/9 - $6.4 million The House With A Clock In Its Walls - $69 million Night School - $76 million Smallfoot - $83 million The Hate U Give - $32 million A Star is Born - $185 million Venom - $205 million Bad Times at the El Royale - $18 million First Man - $51 million Halloween - $175 million Current Top 5 1. Venom - $187.3 million 2. A Star is Born - $148.7 million 3. Halloween - $126.7 million 4. The Nun - $116.9 million 5. Smallfoot - $72.6 million Current Answers to Box Office Questions #1: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Mary Poppins Returns and Smallfoot, the combination of Dr. Seuss' The Grinch and The House With A Clock In Its Walls, or the combination of The Nutcracker and the Four Realms and Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse?
#2: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Aquaman and Hunter Killer, the combination of Bumblebee and Venom, or the combination of Alita: Battle Angel, Mortal Engines, and Robin Hood?
#3: Which 2 of the following films will gross closest to each other in total in dollars - Halloween, The Nun, The Predator, or Suspira?
#4: Which sequel will fall the most from its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#5: Which sequel will gross the closest to its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#6: What will be the highest grossing film to not hit #1 on any of its weekends?
#7: What movie will lose the largest number of theaters in its 3rd weekend?
#8: How many films will gross over $100 million?
#10: What will be the highest grossing film not predicted in the total gross section (including the backup films)?
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Author: | zwackerm [ Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 10 |
I should have points for The Predator and First Man. |
Author: | MGKC [ Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 10 |
zwackerm wrote: I should have points for The Predator and First Man. You are correct - my apologies. I'll fix the chart tonight. |
Author: | MGKC [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 10 |
My apologies to zwackerm - he now sits rightfully on top of the throne for this game! |
Author: | MGKC [ Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:12 pm ] |
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Weekly Ranking for Nov 4 Full chart with all movies: Spoiler: show Total Gross Projections The Nun - $117.5 million The Predator - $51.2 million A Simple Favor - $53.7 million Fahrenheit 11/9 - $6.4 million The House With A Clock In Its Walls - $69 million Night School - $77 million Smallfoot - $84 million The Hate U Give - $32 million A Star is Born - $190 million Venom - $214 million Bad Times at the El Royale - $18 million First Man - $51 million Halloween - $170 million Current Top 5 1. Venom - $198.7 million 2. A Star is Born - $165.5 million 3. Halloween - $150.2 million 4. The Nun - $117.3 million 5. Smallfoot - $77.5 million Current Answers to Box Office Questions #1: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Mary Poppins Returns and Smallfoot, the combination of Dr. Seuss' The Grinch and The House With A Clock In Its Walls, or the combination of The Nutcracker and the Four Realms and Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse?
#2: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Aquaman and Hunter Killer, the combination of Bumblebee and Venom, or the combination of Alita: Battle Angel, Mortal Engines, and Robin Hood?
#3: Which 2 of the following films will gross closest to each other in total in dollars - Halloween, The Nun, The Predator, or Suspira?
#4: Which sequel will fall the most from its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#5: Which sequel will gross the closest to its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#6: What will be the highest grossing film to not hit #1 on any of its weekends?
#7: What movie will lose the largest number of theaters in its 3rd weekend?
#8: How many films will gross over $100 million?
#10: What will be the highest grossing film not predicted in the total gross section (including the backup films)?
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Author: | MGKC [ Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:20 pm ] |
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Weekly Ranking for Nov 11 Full chart with all movies: Spoiler: show Total Gross Projections The Nun - $117.5 million The Predator - $51.2 million A Simple Favor - $53.7 million Fahrenheit 11/9 - $6.4 million The House With A Clock In Its Walls - $69 million Night School - $77.5 million Smallfoot - $84 million The Hate U Give - $32 million A Star is Born - $200 million Venom - $220 million Bad Times at the El Royale - $18 million First Man - $45.5 million Halloween - $162 million Hunter Killer - $16 million Johnny English Strikes Again - $4.5 million Suspira - $2.5 million Bohemian Rhapsody - $180 million The Nutcracker and the Four Realms - $65 million Dr. Seuss' The Grinch - $275 million The Girl in the Spider's Web - $18 million Overlord - $24 million Current Top 5 1. Venom - $206.3 million 2. A Star is Born - $178.1 million 3. Halloween - $160.0 million 4. The Nun - $117.4 million 5. Bohemian Rhapsody - $100.4 million Current Answers to Box Office Questions #1: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Mary Poppins Returns and Smallfoot, the combination of Dr. Seuss' The Grinch and The House With A Clock In Its Walls, or the combination of The Nutcracker and the Four Realms and Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse?
#2: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Aquaman and Hunter Killer, the combination of Bumblebee and Venom, or the combination of Alita: Battle Angel, Mortal Engines, and Robin Hood?
#3: Which 2 of the following films will gross closest to each other in total in dollars - Halloween, The Nun, The Predator, or Suspira?
#4: Which sequel will fall the most from its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#5: Which sequel will gross the closest to its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#6: What will be the highest grossing film to not hit #1 on any of its weekends?
#7: What movie will lose the largest number of theaters in its 3rd weekend?
#8: How many films will gross over $100 million?
#9: How many films will gross over $200 million?
#10: What will be the highest grossing film not predicted in the total gross section (including the backup films)?
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Author: | Algren [ Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 11 |
See this is another unfair points gain. Chippy predicts $47m for Spider's Web and gets 3 points for it. He'll be lucky to get within $20m of the actual gross (which will be HALF the movie's total gross). And I think I should probably get some points for predicting $255m for The Grinch. Only $15m away from the projected final total. Not even 1 point?!! It's a MUCH better prediction than Chippy's $47m for GitSW!!! |
Author: | Price [ Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 11 |
Algren wrote: See this is another unfair points gain. Chippy predicts $47m for Spider's Web and gets 3 points for it. He'll be lucky to get within $20m of the actual gross (which will be HALF the movie's total gross). And I think I should probably get some points for predicting $255m for The Grinch. Only $15m away from the projected final total. Not even 1 point?!! It's a MUCH better prediction than Chippy's $47m for GitSW!!! But there are 6 people that are closer to the projected final result and this game rule is that the six closest get points. Btw, it's still early, but if legs aren't that good, you may get points for your Grinch prediction. The way you want it is like the game I once did, where the closest one got 3 points, the second closest one two and so on. I could do another one if there is interest, but don't expect the flashy MGKC charts and the like. I'm stuck in ancient time and still use an abacus and the like. |
Author: | Algren [ Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 11 |
I know the rules. I am just highlighting a fault in the game. It's less about predicting the movie and more about predicting what others will predict, which is not the way I predicted at all - and I'm losing out because of it. |
Author: | MGKC [ Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 11 |
Correct - it's always been about predicting a movie's total gross better than the others. You can try to predict "better" based on what others are predicting, but it's likely not going to help much. Some movies that we predict don't have a very wide range of predictions. You could to play the odds by having one of the 6 lowest or 6 highest predictions for it, but it could just as easily strike right in the middle of everyone's predictions. I'm definitely not opposed to having a separate bonus for each movie if you successfully predict within 5% of a movie's actual gross, or something to that effect. |
Author: | Magic Mike [ Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 11 |
Here's hoping next week Spider's Web loses enough theaters to be the answer to question #7. |
Author: | Magic Mike [ Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 |
Magic Mike wrote: I already know I'm going to be wrong on Widows. Those reviews are terrific. Maybe, just maybe, I could score points for this after all. |
Author: | MGKC [ Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:57 pm ] |
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Weekly Ranking for Nov 17 Full chart with all movies: Spoiler: show Total Gross Projections The Nun - $117.5 million The Predator - $51.2 million A Simple Favor - $53.7 million Fahrenheit 11/9 - $6.4 million The House With A Clock In Its Walls - $69 million Night School - $77.5 million Smallfoot - $84 million The Hate U Give - $30 million A Star is Born - $195 million Venom - $215 million Bad Times at the El Royale - $18 million First Man - $45.5 million Halloween - $160.3 million Hunter Killer - $15.8 million Johnny English Strikes Again - $4.5 million Suspira - $2.4 million Bohemian Rhapsody - $165 million The Nutcracker and the Four Realms - $58 million Dr. Seuss' The Grinch - $275 million The Girl in the Spider's Web - $18 million Overlord - $21 million Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald - $175 million Widows - $30 million Current Top 5 1. Venom - $210.0 million 2. A Star is Born - $185.8 million 3. Halloween - $158.8 million 4. Bohemian Rhapsody - $127.9 million 5. Dr. Seuss' The Grinch - $126.5 million Current Answers to Box Office Questions #1: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Mary Poppins Returns and Smallfoot, the combination of Dr. Seuss' The Grinch and The House With A Clock In Its Walls, or the combination of The Nutcracker and the Four Realms and Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse?
#2: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Aquaman and Hunter Killer, the combination of Bumblebee and Venom, or the combination of Alita: Battle Angel, Mortal Engines, and Robin Hood?
#3: Which 2 of the following films will gross closest to each other in total in dollars - Halloween, The Nun, The Predator, or Suspira?
#4: Which sequel will fall the most from its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#5: Which sequel will gross the closest to its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#6: What will be the highest grossing film to not hit #1 on any of its weekends?
#7: What movie will lose the largest number of theaters in its 3rd weekend?
#8: How many films will gross over $100 million?
#9: How many films will gross over $200 million?
#10: What will be the highest grossing film not predicted in the total gross section (including the backup films)?
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Author: | Price [ Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 11 |
You should give yourself 3 points for Night School, MGKC. Also, looking at FB2 performance, right now it seems only David has still chance of getting the top 5 right. |
Author: | David [ Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 11 |
It is exciting to still have a top five in play, lol. But it'll go sideways; Aquaman will fall short of Venom or Mary Poppins Returns will top The Grinch or... |
Author: | Algren [ Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 11 |
I completely screwed up my Creed II prediction. But so did everyone else not named stuffp, so I'm still in the top tier (I think). I see it going north of $175m, so I should get points for my $125m prediction (which is crazy, btw). |
Author: | MGKC [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:34 am ] |
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Weekly Ranking for Nov 25 Full chart with all movies: Spoiler: show Total Gross Projections The Nun - $117.5 million The Predator - $51.2 million A Simple Favor - $53.7 million Fahrenheit 11/9 - $6.4 million The House With A Clock In Its Walls - $68.9 million Night School - $77.2 million Smallfoot - $82.4 million The Hate U Give - $29.4 million A Star is Born - $200 million Venom - $214 million Bad Times at the El Royale - $17.8 million First Man - $44.9 million Halloween - $159.4 million Hunter Killer - $15.8 million Johnny English Strikes Again - $4.3 million Suspira - $2.4 million Bohemian Rhapsody - $172 million The Nutcracker and the Four Realms - $54 million Dr. Seuss' The Grinch - $280 million The Girl in the Spider's Web - $14.8 million Overlord - $21.5 million Boy Erased - $9 million Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald - $160 million Widows - $36 million Creed 2 - $125 million Ralph Breaks the Internet - $235 million Robin Hood - $28 million Current Top 5 1. Venom - $211.7 million 2. A Star is Born - $191.0 million 3. Dr. Seuss' The Grinch - $180.4 million 4. Halloween - $159.1 million 5. Bohemian Rhapsody - $152.0 million Current Answers to Box Office Questions #1: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Mary Poppins Returns and Smallfoot, the combination of Dr. Seuss' The Grinch and The House With A Clock In Its Walls, or the combination of The Nutcracker and the Four Realms and Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse?
#2: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Aquaman and Hunter Killer, the combination of Bumblebee and Venom, or the combination of Alita: Battle Angel, Mortal Engines, and Robin Hood?
#3: Which 2 of the following films will gross closest to each other in total in dollars - Halloween, The Nun, The Predator, or Suspira?
#4: Which sequel will fall the most from its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#5: Which sequel will gross the closest to its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#6: What will be the highest grossing film to not hit #1 on any of its weekends?
#7: What movie will lose the largest number of theaters in its 3rd weekend?
#8: How many films will gross over $100 million?
#9: How many films will gross over $200 million?
#10: What will be the highest grossing film not predicted in the total gross section (including the backup films)?
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Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 11 |
Though I feel this my peak. Will lose my first place points for Venom very soon. It’s too bad I didn’t switch that and Mary Poppins. |
Author: | MGKC [ Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 11 |
Price wrote: You should give yourself 3 points for Night School, MGKC. I actually don't get points for Night School, as devon28flick's true prediction for it is $83.7 million, meaning I don't tie him in closeness. |
Author: | MGKC [ Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:43 pm ] |
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Weekly Ranking for Dec 2 Full chart with all movies: Spoiler: show Total Gross Projections The Nun - $117.45 million The Predator - $51.024 million A Simple Favor - $53.7 million Fahrenheit 11/9 - $6.4 million The House With A Clock In Its Walls - $68.9 million Night School - $77.2 million Smallfoot - $82.4 million The Hate U Give - $29.6 million A Star is Born - $200 million Venom - $214 million Bad Times at the El Royale - $17.8 million First Man - $44.9 million Halloween - $159.4 million Hunter Killer - $15.8 million Johnny English Strikes Again - $4.286 million Suspira - $2.4 million Bohemian Rhapsody - $185 million The Nutcracker and the Four Realms - $54 million Dr. Seuss' The Grinch - $280 million The Girl in the Spider's Web - $14.8 million Overlord - $21.5 million Boy Erased - $8.5 million Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald - $155 million Widows - $39 million Creed 2 - $125 million Ralph Breaks the Internet - $215 million Robin Hood - $29 million Current Top 5 1. Venom - $212.3 million 2. Dr. Seuss' The Grinch - $203.5 million 3. A Star is Born - $193.8 million 4. Bohemian Rhapsody - $164.4 million 5. Halloween - $159.1 million Current Answers to Box Office Questions #1: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Mary Poppins Returns and Smallfoot, the combination of Dr. Seuss' The Grinch and The House With A Clock In Its Walls, or the combination of The Nutcracker and the Four Realms and Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse?
#2: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Aquaman and Hunter Killer, the combination of Bumblebee and Venom, or the combination of Alita: Battle Angel, Mortal Engines, and Robin Hood?
#3: Which 2 of the following films will gross closest to each other in total in dollars - Halloween, The Nun, The Predator, or Suspira?
#4: Which sequel will fall the most from its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#5: Which sequel will gross the closest to its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#6: What will be the highest grossing film to not hit #1 on any of its weekends?
#7: What movie will lose the largest number of theaters in its 3rd weekend?
#8: How many films will gross over $100 million?
#9: How many films will gross over $200 million?
#10: What will be the highest grossing film not predicted in the total gross section (including the backup films)?
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Author: | BK [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 12 |
Grindelwald kills 26/27 Top 5s. 27 unique combinations and we may not get it right Screw you Rowling. |
Author: | Proud Ryu [ Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 12 |
I had a feeling that no one would get the top 5, despite all being different (though it's not over yet). Just too many movies too close to the same size, and there's almost always at least one big breakout and/or one big disappointment that is nigh impossible to predict that demolishes the vast majority of predictions. Still, it's part of the fun of this game. To illustrate how hard the top 5 is to get right... Say everyone can predict the rank of every movie within 2 in either direction (so the movie you predict for rank 1 will be rank 1-3, rank 2 will be rank 1-4, rank 3 will be rank 1-5, rank 4 will be rank 2-6, etc). Even in this idyllic scenario, there are 103 different possible top 5 combos. Even if everyone got number 1 right in this scenario, there are still 43 ways for the rest of the top 5 to play out. If you could predict every movie within 1 rank in either direction though, that would bring the number of possible top 5's all the way down to 13. |
Author: | MGKC [ Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:16 pm ] |
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Weekly Ranking for Dec 9 Full chart with all movies: Spoiler: show Total Gross Projections The Nun - $117.45 million The Predator - $51.024 million A Simple Favor - $53.7 million Fahrenheit 11/9 - $6.4 million The House With A Clock In Its Walls - $68.475 million Night School - $77.2 million Smallfoot - $82.4 million The Hate U Give - $29.6 million A Star is Born - $202 million Venom - $213.7 million Bad Times at the El Royale - $17.839 million First Man - $44.9 million Halloween - $159.4 million Hunter Killer - $15.767 million Johnny English Strikes Again - $4.286 million Suspira - $2.4 million Bohemian Rhapsody - $190 million The Nutcracker and the Four Realms - $54 million Dr. Seuss' The Grinch - $280 million The Girl in the Spider's Web - $14.8 million Overlord - $21.9 million Boy Erased - $8.5 million Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald - $165 million Widows - $44 million Creed 2 - $125 million Ralph Breaks the Internet - $200 million Robin Hood - $33 million Current Top 5 1. Dr. Seuss' The Grinch - $223.5 million 2. Venom - $212.7 million 3. A Star is Born - $197.1 million 4. Bohemian Rhapsody - $173.6 million 5. Halloween - $159.2 million Current Answers to Box Office Questions #1: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Mary Poppins Returns and Smallfoot, the combination of Dr. Seuss' The Grinch and The House With A Clock In Its Walls, or the combination of The Nutcracker and the Four Realms and Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse?
#2: Which will gross more in total - the combination of Aquaman and Hunter Killer, the combination of Bumblebee and Venom, or the combination of Alita: Battle Angel, Mortal Engines, and Robin Hood?
#3: Which 2 of the following films will gross closest to each other in total in dollars - Halloween, The Nun, The Predator, or Suspira?
#4: Which sequel will fall the most from its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#5: Which sequel will gross the closest to its predecessor (%-wise) - Creed 2, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Johnny English Strikes Again, or Ralph Breaks the Internet?
#6: What will be the highest grossing film to not hit #1 on any of its weekends?
#7: What movie will lose the largest number of theaters in its 3rd weekend?
#8: How many films will gross over $100 million?
#9: How many films will gross over $200 million?
#10: What will be the highest grossing film not predicted in the total gross section (including the backup films)?
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Author: | Magic Mike [ Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 12 |
Nobody will get #10 as it's going to be The Mule. If it opens with as much as I think it will this weekend it's likely hitting 100 Million. |
Author: | Proud Ryu [ Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: KJ's Fall/Winter Box Office Contest 2018 - Pts Update 12 |
Mike I'm pretty sure you're going to (permanently) overtake me. |
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