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Tremendous reviews pouring on social media with many claiming it's better than WW.

The hype cometh

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I like your sense of humor...

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Where? I thought the initial reactions were exactly opposite of what Excel claimed - "that it is not as good as Wonder Woman"

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Where? I thought the initial reactions were exactly opposite of what Excel claimed - "that it is not as good as Wonder Woman"


He forgot a W and meant Wild Wild West.


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Is this really getting a good response? I just can't see that at all.

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These are social media reactions, not reviews excel.

Let's calm down till Wednesday.


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Highlights include:

"Nothing could save Justice League from its loud, ugly, tacky self. Not Wonder Woman, not wide-eyed Ezra Miller, not Joss Whedon's quippy teardown & rebuild. And Henry Cavill's mustache is an actual issue: they gave him Uncanny Valley Face. Oof, guys. It's a rough ride."

"Justice League! It's okay. Narratively it's a mess, the stakes don't work & the villain isn't great. HOWEVER, the heroes are great, it's funny, & there's some surprisingly effective character work. I didn't love it but there are enough good pieces to excite me for the future."

"Justice League is better than expected, but not a home run... Flash and Aquaman steal the show. Cybor and villain are weak links."


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Is this really getting a good response?

Of course not. Look at who started the thread. In his world 'average' means 'out of this world amazing'.


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Is this really getting a good response?

Of course not. Look at who started the thread. In his world 'average' means 'out of this world amazing'.


I have to agree. Average is like the perfect word I would use to describe it, because while some did enjoy it it sounds like it still has a lot of the same problems as the rest of the DCEU films. I don't expect professional critics to be so kind either.


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The reaction is pretty much identical to THOR 2's when its social media embargo lifted.

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But what is Thor 2 to BVS?

Thor 2 is a perfectly manageable film

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This should definitely have better RT than BvS & SS. That’s an improvement at least.
Can’t wait to see it Thursday night

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This should definitely have better RT than BvS & SS. That’s an improvement at least.


But worse than WW, so it's not an improvement in the least.


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Rev wrote:
This should definitely have better RT than BvS & SS. That’s an improvement at least.


But worse than WW, so it's not an improvement in the least.

Wasn’t comparing it to WW

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIA0Rn0y-r0

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Rev wrote:
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Rev wrote:
This should definitely have better RT than BvS & SS. That’s an improvement at least.


But worse than WW, so it's not an improvement in the least.

Wasn’t comparing it to WW


You said improvement. Why are you conveniently missing out the most recent installment in the franchise? And why are you even comparing it to Suicide Squad? Because it was a team up flick? lol. Nobody from SS is in Justice League. At least Wonder Woman is actually in it.

On a trajectory from first to last in the DCU, Justice League will at a point where it's going down, not up.


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These social media reactions all read like someone telling their friend how the play they were in was, through a forced smile.

Reviews probably on't be as bad as BvS or Suicide Squad, but they aren't gonna be good. Probably at Man of Steel level.


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These social media reactions all read like someone telling their friend how the play they were in was, through a forced smile.

Reviews probably on't be as bad as BvS or Suicide Squad, but they aren't gonna be good. Probably at Man of Steel level.


MOS got 55 on RT. Anything above that is improvement. I'm predicting 69 for JL

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It's amusing how much people care about narrative and villains in JL when Thor: Ragnaork had one of the silliest and thin stories in MCU and a lackluster villain who didn't do much after her first scene.

The social media stuff I've read is really good news to me at least from a commercial perspective. Everything seems positive in terms of it getting a good reception with mainstream audiences and fans. If they got the heroes and the concept of the league right (which most reviews say they do), people will be satisfied.

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It's amusing how much people care about narrative and villains in JL when Thor: Ragnaork had one of the silliest and thin stories in MCU and a lackluster villain who didn't do much after her first scene.


That's what happens when you make enjoyable films, viewers are more forgiving of other things. And also there is still the expectation that because Nolan created such good villains, the DCU should have better villains.


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Nolan created them? Wow, somebody tell Bob Kane, Bill Finger and others that.


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He created those versions of those villains, yes.


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Ragnarok also goes full in on being a comedy to the point of bear self-parody

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Thor: Rag is a comedy movie for sure. But that doesn't actually make its flaws go away. They may not mean much as the good aspects outweigh and overshadow it but they still exist.

The frustrating part with how the critics review DCU films is that they make it seem that the flaws of those movies (weak story, weak villain, over reliance on CGI, etc.) somehow only exist in those movies and not the majority of comic book tentpoles today. The main issue with DCU films has not been their flaws but their lack of strengths. To me that is predominant reason why most of them aren't good movies.

If a review just said "it has the same issues of most other comic book movies but little redeeming qualities to make up for it", I'd respect it. But the picking of issues with DCU and ignoring it in all the other comic book movie tentpoles is misguided to me.

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I think the aspect of coherence was also missing in BvS and SS which is why WW did great with critics even though its final fight was pretty crap even from tentpole standards.

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