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$31.5m :death:


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October is fucked.


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Mountain - $10.1m
It - $9.65m
My Little Pony - $8.8m
Kingsman - $8.1m


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BR had the 14th biggest opening weekend of 1982 (BOM has 15th which is wrong or at least debatable), BR49 the 25th biggest opening weekend of 2017 and we still have three months to go...

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That seems like the most pointless fact anyone has written about anything

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I disagree, I think yearly positions are more useful than inflation adjustments...

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Wait. The sequel no one asked for to the cult classic that nobody cared about isn’t shattering box office records?

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I disagree, I think yearly positions are more useful than inflation adjustments...



Gerbils eat spaghetti. Shrug.

What’s the point, are you trying to say the original was more high profile to give a better perspective based on its yearly OW rank?

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Wait. The sequel no one asked for to the cult classic that nobody cared about isn’t shattering box office records?

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:hahaha: Exactly.

Oddly enough, a more action oriented film/marketing campaign could have easily done $50m+.

Like, nobody under 25 who is seeing this has seen the original. But they know it was highly regarded and were willing to give this a shot.

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mark66 wrote:
I disagree, I think yearly positions are more useful than inflation adjustments...



Gerbils eat spaghetti. Shrug.

What’s the point, are you trying to say the original was more high profile to give a better perspective based on its yearly OW rank?


mark66 has a valid point: given the fact that BR wasn't sequel it managed to have a really good opening. BR didn't become a legendary movie over the months, it already was a blockbuster in 1982 (not surprisingly, because Ford was a star with SW4, SW5 and Indiana Jones). BR49 can't even manage to get blockbuster status on it's OW.


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this opening is sickening!


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BR had the 14th biggest opening weekend of 1982 (BOM has 15th which is wrong or at least debatable), BR49 the 25th biggest opening weekend of 2017 and we still have three months to go...

Actually makes the original Blade Runner look even worse. Way less high profile movies were released in 1982 than 2017, correct?


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Yep so BR2049 didn't do those lofty OW numbers everyone was predicting. I believe Riggs was the lowest at $38m in the predictions thread and this will do well below it.

I think out of the openers The Mountain Between Us did good. Poor for Pony as well.


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mark66 wrote:
BR had the 14th biggest opening weekend of 1982 (BOM has 15th which is wrong or at least debatable), BR49 the 25th biggest opening weekend of 2017 and we still have three months to go...

Actually makes the original Blade Runner look even worse. Way less high profile movies were released in 1982 than 2017, correct?



Actually I believe the point he is going for is this: Raiders opened to 8 million, and became the third biggest film of all time. Bladerunner opened to 6 million, and made 27 million, . But you got to remember that's the month of ET, the best Star Trek film, The Thing, Poltergeist, and Tron all released basically in a month of each other. Lol, and Raiders of the Lost Ark's re release almost beat it two weeks later. I can't fathom today that both The Thing and Bladerunner came out the same day. It never had a chance.

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Terrible start for BR2049 indeed on the domestic front. Overseas though it had a decent start. Also we have yet to see how BR2049 will play out in China and Japan. Those two could possibly save the movie financially.

Also It is holding extremely well for a horror film, and also given the massive OW it had. I think in a twisted sense, the massive success of It has hurt BR2049 domestically. Not to a massive degree, but I think if It was not in theaters right now, BR2049's domestic OW would have been a bit higher.

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I guess the budget was high, but I am not surprised. Seems decent considering the material

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Tragic. Marketing really failed by assuming the original was a lot more iconic and well-known than it actually is. Film buffs = / = the general public.

Is the modern sci-fi golden age over then? Arrival was a success but it wasn't huge. Passengers did meh last year. Life bombed. Now this is flopping.

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Is the modern sci-fi golden age over then? Arrival was a success but it wasn't huge. Passengers did meh last year. Life bombed. Now this is flopping.


No, but I also wouldn't exactly call this a golden age for modern sci-fi.

Arrival is a damn good movie, but I wouldn't call it a generally accessible film.

Passengers was okay. There's a reason why they hid certain plot elements from the public in the marketing though. And when those certain elements were revealed before the film came out, audiences mostly ignored it.

Life sucked.

The movies just have to be better (haven't seen 2049 yet).

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It has been adjusted to $32.75m. I guess thats a good sign for its legs, but it is still a flop.


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Ryan Gosling is box office poison. He picks good roles but he is just BO poison. Lalaland had more to do with Emma Stone's draw than his


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Ryan Gosling is box office poison. He picks good roles but he is just BO poison. Lalaland had more to do with Emma Stone's draw than his

Interesting perspective. Looking at Gosling's filmography, I am surprised to see such a string of low-grossing films. But I disagree that he is poison. He is just building his star image. Clooney also doesn't make high-grossing hits, but they both have respect.

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Yeah I wouldn't call him BO poison as he has some good hits with Notebook, Crazy Stupid Love,The Big Short and La La Land so he can be in mid-tier hits. I do agree though that he has never been in BIG blockbusters or they didn't do big numbers (The Nice Guys and BR2049) but a lot of it has to do with him being picky in his movie choices.


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When will people understand there are very few actual draws anymore? Gosling isn't poison. Like anyone he can open the right film. People don't show up just for the actor anymore.


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When will people understand there are very few actual draws anymore? Gosling isn't poison. Like anyone he can open the right film. People don't show up just for the actor anymore.


Well, unless the actor is Leo or Denzel or Cruise. There are some draws still around. But obviously it's not the 80s and 90s anymore when a big star could carry a stinker.

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With the reviews BR2049 is getting, it's hard to even call it a stinker. It just follows a similar pattern like Scorcese's Silence.

But sure, in the 80's especially there were less films and film generally carried longer legs. A mediocre film could have turned huge profits just on the back of its star, no matter what the film was.

In some way, competition in film has gone up, which should lead to better quality. It's hard to say that's the case, especially at the top end. But we have a lot more, it's alright/ not bad films nowadays.

And imagine Leo would have been the lead in BR2049. I have little doubt it would have opened twice as big.


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