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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18880 Location: San Diego
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
publicenemy#1 wrote: Only needs a 3.2 multiplier from this weekend for this to happen 3.1 now.
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:50 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67043
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
bl1222 wrote: MGKC wrote: Riggs wrote: I seriously don't get those gargantuan WW predictions. Looks to me like a solid 170m+ grosser. I agree - I don't see why this is going to be so much bigger than Captain America, Ant-Man, Thor, and Doctor Strange. Famous character, sure, but it's not the first we've seen of her, so there's no novelty factor. Child, bye. That's ironic.
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:18 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Its doing great based on WoM but I also agree with MGKC, the novelty after BvS wasn't huge and arguably the OW showed that.
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:52 pm |
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18880 Location: San Diego
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Jack Sparrow wrote: Its not doing great based on WoM Uhhhhhh yes it is.........
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:04 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Fixed. It was a typo
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:05 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67043
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
publicenemy#1 wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: Its not doing great based on WoM Uhhhhhh yes it is......... Well, if BvS can make $330m on shit word-of-mouth, and Wonder Woman only makes $370m on AMAZE-BALLS-TERRIFIC word-of-mouth, I'd have to agree with Sparrow ... its performance should be better.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:08 am |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21152 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
The only reason BvS made so much is that it made over half its gross based on anticipation. Then people saw it. If Wonder Woman outgrosses BvS by $40 million despite the latter getting a $63 million head start, there's no spinning it, that'd be amazing. Outgrossing BvS by a dollar would already have surpassed Warner Brothers wildest expectations. To do it by $40 million, especially considering the film's lack of a bat-man or super-man?...There isn't anyone who expected it to enter the top ten of highest grossing superhero films.
The only way you could spin whatever Wonder Woman's final number is going to be negatively (unless it drops off a cliff for no reason starting tomorrow), is what it could've done if people had actually liked the DCEU going in. That'd be pointless though.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:13 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67043
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
No need to spin it. It's fact. It's going to make way less than $400m. Good, but nothing great in this day and age.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:25 am |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21152 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Using your benchmark of $370 million, if it hits that, it becomes the tenth highest grossing superhero film of all-time, and the third highest grossing non-sequel superhero film ever made. $370 million would also most likely assure it as the third highest grossing movie of the year. How is that just good?
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:31 am |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67043
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Jmart wrote: Using your benchmark of $370 million, if it hits that, it becomes the tenth highest grossing superhero film of all-time, and the third highest grossing non-sequel superhero film ever made. $370 million would also most likely assure it as the third highest grossing movie of the year. How is that just good? Because you're allowing Wonder Woman the advantage of years of inflation. And even unadjusted, there are nine male superhero films are ahead of it. Ouch.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:53 am |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21152 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Algren wrote: Jmart wrote: Using your benchmark of $370 million, if it hits that, it becomes the tenth highest grossing superhero film of all-time, and the third highest grossing non-sequel superhero film ever made. $370 million would also most likely assure it as the third highest grossing movie of the year. How is that just good? Because you're allowing Wonder Woman the advantage of years of inflation. Aren't you a big proponent of how adjusted numbers are bullshit? Quote: And even unadjusted, there are nine male superhero films are ahead of it. Ouch. Ah, there we go.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:24 am |
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Algren
now we know
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Jmart wrote: Algren wrote: Jmart wrote: Using your benchmark of $370 million, if it hits that, it becomes the tenth highest grossing superhero film of all-time, and the third highest grossing non-sequel superhero film ever made. $370 million would also most likely assure it as the third highest grossing movie of the year. How is that just good? Because you're allowing Wonder Woman the advantage of years of inflation. Aren't you a big proponent of how adjusted numbers are bullshit? No. They are not bullshit. They are useful, just not a 100% clear picture. They are good to give an indication of attendance.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:16 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
I think WW doing $300m+ is great. Its the first female superhero movie to cross $300m. SW movies with female leads did great that's because of the brand name being stronger than leads so this will be the first movie since Eclipse/THG/THG:CF where a female led movie have crossed $300m+. Its a rare occurrence and an achievement for it.
As far as the attendance is concerned yes WW might not be comparable to the ones mentioned above, but I don't see (m)any future female led movies breaking the mark so convincingly.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:52 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67043
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
It doesn't get a pass because it's a female superhero film. Feminists wouldn't want to be given different treatment than men. Let's be fair here. It will make over $300m. Other films have made that before. Its multiplier will not reach 4.0. Other films have reached 4.0 before. Its WOM is great but its performance is average. For its word-of-mouth, it should be reaching $450m. I am sure Captain Marvel won't be a) such a pile of crap, and b) such a box office under-performer.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:15 am |
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Price
Gamaur's sex slave
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Pffft. Jennifer Lawrence>Gal Gadot. THG>WW. Don't think WW will reach $400m domestic.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:19 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
I don't think if other films have made $300m or had a multiplier of 4 before than it means anything after that is not successful.
How is its second weekend drop considered average when it had one of the best sophomore drop for a superhero movie? Eh I don't think WoM is THAT good for it to reach $450m.
Captain Marvel will most likely not do $300m at BO.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:48 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Price wrote: Pffft. Jennifer Lawrence>Gal Gadot. THG>WW. Don't think WW will reach $400m domestic. No one said otherwise.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:49 am |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67043
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Jack Sparrow wrote: How is its second weekend drop considered average when it had one of the best sophomore drop for a superhero movie? Its second weekend drop is not considered average at all. It's a wonderful drop. My issue is regarding its expected total. When people claim this is the MOTHER OF GOD box office titan, and it ends its run at just ... $370m.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:57 am |
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Price
Gamaur's sex slave
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Jack Sparrow wrote: Price wrote: Pffft. Jennifer Lawrence>Gal Gadot. THG>WW. Don't think WW will reach $400m domestic. No one said otherwise. Everyone is treating this like the second coming of Christ and it won't do anything that THG already did five years ago.
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Price wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: Price wrote: Pffft. Jennifer Lawrence>Gal Gadot. THG>WW. Don't think WW will reach $400m domestic. No one said otherwise. Everyone is treating this like the second coming of Christ and it won't do anything that THG already did five years ago. Aww! Someone is upset that women are getting attention!
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:16 am |
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Price
Gamaur's sex slave
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
First person I have heard that says Jennifer Lawrence is not a woman. Well, maybe Algren has said it too.
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Who said that? Because I know you're not a fucking idiot.
Why do you enjoy being a piece of shit to people online? People you've interacted with for 12+ years?
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:37 pm |
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Price
Gamaur's sex slave
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Ok
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the lesser evil
Indiana Jones IV
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Magnus wrote: But Wonder Woman is potentially having the best legs for any superhero film of all time. So yes, it is a big deal. That's not going to happen though. Even ignoring smaller scale films like Sky High and Blade or older films like the first three Superman films, both Batman and Batman Begins had multipliers that won't be attainable by Wonder Woman (6.20 and 4.24 respectively). It's gonna be impressive though, looking to pass such leggy hits like Spider-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 1.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:20 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67043
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Re: Wonder Woman>BvS club
Chippy wrote: Why do you enjoy being a piece of shit to people online? People you've interacted with for 12+ years? Aww, Chippy thought KJ members could be real friends.
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