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Author:  Neostorm [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:39 pm ]
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From Showbizdata

Thursday, April, 14, 2005

1 SAHARA $1,227,511 0.9% / $389 $23,346,195
2 SIN CITY $863,000 (estimate) -2.5% / $267 $54,614,139
3 FEVER PITCH $639,861 -2.1% / $196 $15,144,048
4 GUESS WHO $404,460 2.5% / $132 $52,673,173
5 BEAUTY SHOP $324,371 1.4% / $122 $27,478,116
6 MISS CONGENIALITY 2: ARMED AND FABULOUS $291,341 3.3% / $97 $38,696,157
7 ROBOTS $280,642 4.5% / $103 $112,154,492
8 THE UPSIDE OF ANGER $199,000 (estimate) -2% / $173 $13,050,351
9 THE PACIFIER $193,649 4.7% / $82 $101,316,666
10 THE RING TWO $172,173 -1.4% / $72 $72,997,508
11 STATE PROPERTY 2 $128,960 -40.4% / $638 $345,394

Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:42 pm ]
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Let's hope they are dead wrong on Sin City

Author:  zingy [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:45 pm ]
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Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch, if those numbers are true.

Author:  matatonio [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:46 pm ]
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thats like a 20% drop! thats horrible!

Author:  Anonymous [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:55 pm ]
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1. SAHARA PARAMOUNT 3,154 1,228,000 389 23,347,000
2. SIN CITY DIMENSION 3,230 841,000 260 56,587,000
3. FEVER PITCH 20TH CENTURY FOX 3,267 640,000 196 15,143,000
4. GUESS WHO SONY 3,064 407,000 133 52,675,000
5. BEAUTY SHOP MGM/UA 2,659 324,000 122 27,478,000
6. MISS CONGENIALITY 2: ARMED AND FABULOUS WARNER BROS. 3,011 291,000 97 38,753,000
7. ROBOTS 20TH CENTURY FOX 2,713 281,000 104 114,561,000
8. UPSIDE OF ANGER, THE NEW LINE 1,151 280,000 243 13,436,000
9. PACIFIER, THE BUENA VISTA 2,375 173,000 73 102,913,000
10. RING 2, THE DREAMWORKS 2,407 172,000 71 75,745,000
11. STATE PROPERTY 2 LIONS GATE 202 129,000 639 345,000
12. HITCH SONY 1,478 115,000 78 175,028,000
13. HOSTAGE MIRAMAX 1,269 103,000 81 33,491,000
14. ICE PRINCESS BUENA VISTA 1,419 78,000 55 22,087,000
15. MILLION DOLLAR BABY WARNER BROS. 857 63,000 74 98,522,000
16. MELINDA AND MELINDA FOX SEARCHLIGHT 294 44,000 150 2,639,000
17. MILLIONS FOX SEARCHLIGHT 176 39,000 222 2,275,000
18. BE COOL MGM/UA 564 28,000 50 55,936,000
19. KUNG FU HUSTLE SONY CLASSICS 7 28,000 4,000 374,000
20. CONSTANTINE WARNER BROS. 301 24,000 80 74,523,000

Author:  xiayun [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:56 pm ]
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The 0.8 could turn out to be 0.845 for Sin City. It's certainly not a good Thursday and not what I expected. Still today it should increase more than what last Friday increased, 180% I expect, and that will result in a $2.4M Friday and around $8M for the weekend.

Author:  Anonymous [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:57 pm ]
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Probably again like last week. BOM haven't been good in estimating Sin City, and when they get total actual, will modify all days again.

Author:  Joker's Thug #3 [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:00 pm ]
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If thats the case ShowBizData had even worst estimates seeing as everyday this week they were .1 higher then BOM

Author:  xiayun [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:00 pm ]
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Sahara continues to do quite well. It shouldn't have trouble breaking 10M. Fever Pitch, on the other hand, needs a big Friday increase to get close to 7M for the weekend.

Author:  Anonymous [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:05 pm ]
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Killuminati510 wrote:
If thats the case ShowBizData had even worst estimates seeing as everyday this week they were .1 higher then BOM


Don't know for weekdays, but yes, for friday and saturday their estimates were usually more wrong than BOM ones.

Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:09 pm ]
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xiayun wrote:
Sahara continues to do quite well. It shouldn't have trouble breaking 10M. Fever Pitch, on the other hand, needs a big Friday increase to get close to 7M for the weekend.


Well, 50 First Dates, Along Came Polly and Hitch all increased 200+% on their first cuple of Friday's. I expect a 230% increase.

Author:  Joker's Thug #3 [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:25 pm ]
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Yeah, BOM changed its Daily chart for Sin City http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/

Author:  xiayun [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:29 pm ]
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1 SAHARA $1,227,511 0.9% / $389 $23,346,195
2 SIN CITY $863,000 (estimate) -2.5% / $267 $54,614,139
3 FEVER PITCH $639,861 -2.1% / $196 $15,144,048
4 GUESS WHO $404,460 2.5% / $132 $52,673,173
5 BEAUTY SHOP $324,371 1.4% / $122 $27,478,116
6 MISS CONGENIALITY 2: ARMED AND FABULOUS $291,341 3.3% / $97 $38,696,157
7 ROBOTS $280,642 4.5% / $103 $112,154,492
8 THE UPSIDE OF ANGER $199,000 (estimate) -2% / $173 $13,050,351
9 THE PACIFIER $193,649 4.7% / $82 $101,316,666
10 THE RING TWO $172,173 -1.4% / $72 $72,997,508
11 STATE PROPERTY 2 $128,960 -40.4% / $638 $345,394

Author:  Jeff 42 [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:31 pm ]
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Second week in a row that Sin City estimates were revised downward. Interesting... It doesn't really affect my expectations for the weekend, though.

Author:  Samweis Gamdschie [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:32 pm ]
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xiayun wrote:
2 SIN CITY $863,000 (estimate) -2.5% / $267 $54,614,139



Interesting... didn't happen the first time numbers were way off... :-k

Author:  matatonio [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:33 pm ]
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:???: ....good!

was the Wednesday number wrong?!?

Author:  xiayun [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:33 pm ]
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Still OK for Sin City. I still expect it to increase 180% today to $2.4M. KB Vol 2 had a weekend multiplier of 3.6 in its third weekend after the 3.2 the previous weekend. Sin City had 3.0 last weekend, so give it a 3.4 this time, we have 8M.

Author:  xiayun [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:38 pm ]
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BTW, pretty much all films had abnormally high increase last Thursday, maybe due to some school closing, and we aren't observing that this week, so I expect Friday's increases to be generally higher, especially when the effect from theater loss will be quite small this weekend.

Author:  Samweis Gamdschie [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:40 pm ]
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xiayun wrote:
BTW, pretty much all films had abnormally high increase last Thursday, maybe due to some school closing, and we aren't observing that this week, so I expect Friday's increases to be generally higher, especially when the effect from theater loss will be quite small this weekend.


Yep, as always - you make good observations! We could see some 200% increases this weekend... :razz:

Author:  MGKC [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:51 pm ]
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Studios are idiots for not releasing a kid movie right now. It would be the only big family movie out right now, since families are having to go to Sahara for entertainment.

Author:  Eagle [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:58 pm ]
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I often wonder who runs these studios ...

But then again ... many of the people on these boards are among the most knowledgable in the industry. I am sure the people running the studios have many obstacles to face.

Author:  Joker's Thug #3 [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:53 am ]
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Forgot about State Property 2, knew that was gonna have a huge drop, probably didnt even increase much today.

Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:47 am ]
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Don't underestimate the competition Sin City will get from The Amityville Horror. Both will attract teens and The Amityville Horror opens very wide while Sin City probably lost quite a couple of screens this weekend. I see a Friday increase of around 165%, similar to last week, leading to a weekend of around $7.5-7.6 million.

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