Japan Box-Office: On Hiatus
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Corpse
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
LPLC wrote: Corpse wrote: Looking at this week's numbers, which will begin to trend upward soon as the holidays approach, Demon Slayer is looking likely to achieve 89-consecutive days above ¥50 million (~$500,000), as it has yet to, and is unlikely to have, any days below that mark until January 12th at the earliest. Maybe Thursday it will drop under that mark but if it doesn't and reaches 89 days above ¥50 million, is that a record ? Thursday will at least match Tuesday, I think, so no worries there. And it might even begin increasing around that time. Doraemon was looking at an increase on Tuesday before slipping off in the evening, suggesting the holiday bump is quickly approaching (as in a day or two away). Doraemon will determine when the holiday boosts begin since it's the youngest skewing film in release right now. While we don't have dailies for films like Spirited Away or Titanic, it's almost certainly a record since at least them. We can check to make 100% certain, but it's likely that Frozen and Your Name. dipped below that mark before their 13th weekends.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:15 pm |
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ymblcza
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Frozen did ¥383m in 14th weekday, ¥295m in 15th weekday The first day under 50m should be Tuesday of 15th week, or 95 days before breaking that mark
Your Name, 12th Tuesday, 74 days
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:23 pm |
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LPLC
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Charlie Jat, I have a question about your predictions for the holiday period, why are you predicting $1M tomorrow, $1.25M Thursday, and $2M Friday ? I think those days will be under $1M and act normally, right ?
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:24 pm |
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Corpse
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
ymblcza wrote: Frozen did ¥383m in 14th weekday, ¥295m in 15th weekday The first day under 50m should be Tuesday of 15th week, or 95 days before breaking that mark
Your Name, 12th Tuesday, 74 days Let's make 96 days the goal, then.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:32 pm |
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LPLC
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Corpse wrote: ymblcza wrote: Frozen did ¥383m in 14th weekday, ¥295m in 15th weekday The first day under 50m should be Tuesday of 15th week, or 95 days before breaking that mark
Your Name, 12th Tuesday, 74 days Let's make 96 days the goal, then. lmao, I don't mean to be pessimistic, but it's almost certain that DS will one day be below ¥50 million by February.
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:45 pm |
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charlie jat
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
LPLC wrote: Charlie Jat, I have a question about your predictions for the holiday period, why are you predicting $1M tomorrow, $1.25M Thursday, and $2M Friday ? I think those days will be under $1M and act normally, right ? I will like to ask @corpse. Do holiday period boost start from 23rd December like rest of world? Frozen 2 last year had 50% better hold on 23rd December Monday than its previous Mondays. Regarding Thurs its Xmas Eve & Friday is Xmas. I can be wrong for sure. Very very new to Japan box office I am.
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:54 pm |
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charlie jat
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Corpse wrote: ymblcza wrote: Frozen did ¥383m in 14th weekday, ¥295m in 15th weekday The first day under 50m should be Tuesday of 15th week, or 95 days before breaking that mark
Your Name, 12th Tuesday, 74 days Let's make 96 days the goal, then. I have first day under ¥50mn on 15th Jan but quite possible on 12th December too.
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:57 pm |
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WandaLegion
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
charlie jat wrote: I have first day under ¥50mn on 15th Jan but quite possible on 12th December too.
That would be quite the downward adjustment from 588
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:23 pm |
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Corpse
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
charlie jat wrote: LPLC wrote: Charlie Jat, I have a question about your predictions for the holiday period, why are you predicting $1M tomorrow, $1.25M Thursday, and $2M Friday ? I think those days will be under $1M and act normally, right ? I will like to ask @corpse. Do holiday period boost start from 23rd December like rest of world? Frozen 2 last year had 50% better hold on 23rd December Monday than its previous Mondays. Regarding Thurs its Xmas Eve & Friday is Xmas. I can be wrong for sure. Very very new to Japan box office I am. It honestly really varies by film. Once the holidays kick in, you'll notice just how much of a variance there is between different films (talking hundreds of percent differences). Unless a film has enough family appeal, they don't really benefit much until the actual New Year week. It also depends the day of the week dates land on. Since Christmas isn't a holiday in Japan (very important to remember versus much of the world), many schools will still likely be in session until then. Back in 2015, the last year Christmas was on a Friday, the weekdays leading up to then (and even Christmas itself) behaved normally with the exception of Yo-Kai Watch which began to increase since it was a younger-skewing film. Therefore, I wouldn't anticipate much of any benefit this year until the weekend. But we know that some schools did enter Winter break on Tuesday, because Doraemon (the youngest skewing film in release right now) was up for half of the day before slipping in the evening. These would have been the some of the elementary schools and daycares and such. And more will go on break as we get closer to the weekend (junior > high > college, in that order), but again, I don't think anything besides Doraemon (which may begin increasing from tomorrow, Wednesday) will experience any major benefit until the weekend itself.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:23 pm |
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WandaLegion
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Gonna shoot my shot early. +100%
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:24 pm |
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
If DS become new no.1 all time on Sat, will the news report it immediately or they wait until Monday?
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:46 pm |
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Corpse
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Doubtful. Box office returns aren't reported on a daily basis, so the announcements will come Monday morning. And just in time, too, to begin the holiday period proper to attract anyone who hasn't been interested yet, and/or those who will soon have the time to check it out as the new #1 film.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:49 pm |
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
If they report on Sat, the effect may come sooner in Sun and Mon I think.
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:20 pm |
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
First number from Wed at 9.30am at usual locations, Doraemon and Fate are alreay at nearly 100% comparing to last week.
Edit: it seems Wed still not holiday yet, just some schools out only.
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:22 pm |
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Corpse
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Can't really gauge much so early in the day, but most schools will still be in session until the weekend (Christmas is not a holiday), so don't expect too much until then. Only the elementary (and earlier) schools have begun to let out at this point.
And there aren't very many children in Japan these days. There are more people over 75 (almost over 80) than under 14 now. Just 11.9% of the population is under 14, and just 7.7% is under 10, so the initial impact at the box-office this week will be very small until the Junior/High Schools and Colleges go on break this weekend.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:31 pm |
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Last year christmas day was on tue or wed and i remember that whole week got bump already. This year christmas day is on thu and fri....hm...... not good as last year.
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:42 pm |
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Corpse
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
That's because you're comparing two different type of weeks. I've gone over this A LOT today. I go over this stuff ahead of time so it's not brought up so much. Christmas Day is not a holiday. Therefore, schools aren't going to let out days ahead of time if it lands on a Friday. This is a relatively normal week, with the exception of some elementary schools letting out a couple days before the weekend that will have minimal impact and just for Doraemon since it's the only young-skewing film in release right now. Last year, Christmas Day (or more importantly, the 25th of December) was in the middle of the week, meaning schools were already starting to go on break during the first part/middle of the week since it was a week from New Year. That's not the case this year. Back in 2015, the last time Christmas landed on a Friday (only counting the films in the Top 10), here is how the dailies behaved: Nothing increased on that Monday (21st). Nothing increased on that Tuesday (22nd). 3 films increased on that Wednesday (23rd) since it was a holiday, but the 23rd is no longer a holiday because the Emperor then has since abdicated, so Emperor's Day was moved. All but two increased on that Thursday (24th) as most, but not all (Colleges) began their break. 3 films increased on that Friday (25th), all younger-skewing films only since Christmas isn't a holiday and workplaces are open until New Year.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:59 pm |
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
This year 2 holidays week will be from 28th Dec (Mon) to 11th Jan (Mon) ??
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:18 pm |
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Corpse
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Yep. New Year Week is stronger than the prior week though, as both students and workers are off. Businesses don't go on holiday until New Year, so films appealing towards adults don't see much benefit during the last week of December.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:22 pm |
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Just curious about the time when Spirited Away was released in 2001 in Japan, I read a comment on FB said: "during a time were anime was still not as mainstream as it is today." Is this true? But then another comment: ""Anime is mainstream for both films as far as release goes. It was mainstream in Japan back in the 80s."
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:36 pm |
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charlie jat
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
So not as strong as I was expecting but I was wrong in my expectations.
Looks like 40k Wednesday which is 40% better than normal but daily increase seems normal because Tuesday is also better than normal.
Wed/Sunday ratio
Week 7: 97/323 = 30% Week 8: 87/240 = 36% Week 9: 85/248 = 34%
Week 10: ~71/148 = 48%
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:52 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
These weekdays might also not be big because its weekend is going to be gargantuan as seen by early pre-sales numbers. People who are interested in DS are booking it over this weekend.
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:12 pm |
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LPLC
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Personally, I think that the biggest day of these holidays will be the coming Saturday, that is to say the first day of the holidays thanks to the 4DX, the gifts ... and then there will be no a bigger day even if the new year week will have strong days. What do you think ?
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:35 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
Absolutely! These giveaways weekends have been acting as holiday weekends and with the added bonus of 4DX it should be the biggest boost/increase it will receive. Though I can see the next Saturday/Sunday to match or increase in gross over this weekend because I feel the 4DX screens will still be full next weekend.
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:01 am |
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Actuals (12/19-20)
4DX is only available on weekend or also on weekdays ???
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:48 am |
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