"5CMPS" was Shinkai's own production with an estimated budget of $5 million, while "Your name" is a full-length film and far superior in visual aspect with large cast and promotion, a minimum of $25-$30 million tally seems right at the moment, but it can be higher or lower than that.
It's financed by Genki Kawamura (Previously co-produced Wolf's children, Boy and the beast and few other live action adaptation) along with Noritaka Katachi (Worked in previous Shinkai's films), Shinkai only serve as an director and writer, so won't gain much financially but finally getting the recognition.

'The matter is not the money it made'? lol, you're absolutely wrong.
In today's generation, the success of the film is determine by the box office collection also, every 9 out of 10 articles published will talk about how much money it made, second by rest of the things.
In Past, there has been lot of underappreciated films like Paparika, Tokyo godfather, Perfect blue etc which even inspired legendary directors, things could've been different if it had been a success in term of money making.

CHINA ALL TIME OPENINGS
1 Furious 7——--$182,400,000
2 Avengers: Age of Ultron------$155,750,000
3 The Mermaid (2016)-------$120,481,288
4 Monster Hunt-------$107,020,000
5 Lost in Hong Kong------$106,800,000
6 Jurassic World------$99,150,000
7 Mojin: The Lost Legend------$95,437,753
8 Breakup Buddies------$94,130,000
9 Captain America: Civil War-----$93,640,448
10 Journey to the West: Conquering the Demons---$92,460,000
11 Transformers: Age of Extinction-----$92,000,000
12 Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation------- $86,650,000
13 Ip Man 3 -----$70,650,060
14 Jian Bing Man------$69,020,000
15 Time Raiders------- $66,073,351
16 Warcraft--------$65,141,191
17 Iron Man 3-----$64,500,000
18 X-Men: Apocalypse------$59,587,048
19 Tiny Times 4.0----$58,390,000
20 Terminator: Genisys----$58,170,000
21 Transformers 3----$56,000,000
22 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice----$55,739,150
23 Dragon Blade-----$54,840,000
24 Finding Mr. Right 2------$54,646,277
25 Gone with the Bullets-----$54,290,000
26 Devil and Angel (E Gun Tian Shi)------$54,254,315
27 Personal Tailor------$52,510,000
28 Star Wars: The Force Awakens -------$52,348,430
29 San Andreas-------- $52,260,000
30 Kung Fu Panda 3---------$51,311,226
31 The Taking of Tiger Mountain----$51,290,000
32 The Monkey King-------$50,880,000
33 Tiny Times 3 ------$50,120,000
34 The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies-----$49,300,000
35 The Jungle Book (2016)-----$48,881,426
36 The Continent-----$47,140,000
37 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes------ $47,006,968
38 The Amazing Spider-Man 2------$46,450,000
39 Skiptrace------$45,597,697
40 Police Story 2013 ----$45,340,000
41 Pacific Rim----$45,280,000
42 Spectre-----$44,495,427
43 Now You See Me 2--------$44,378,160
44 Cold War 2------$43,904,174
45 S.P.L. 2: A TIme for Consequences-------$43,750,000
46 Doctor Strange-----$43,666,292
47 The Man from Macau II---- $43,100,000
48 Ant-Man -----1$42,770,000
49 Tiny Times----$42,760,000
50 Interstellar-----$42,670,000


Your name will likely debut anything between 37-43.

Corpse, can you help me with my questions about the films I mentioned?

What do you think the admissions of these films would be?

I think Jaws and Ben-Hur had to touch the 5 million.

I think you misunderstood my statement. Of course its earnings is impressive and everyone in the business consider that as the prime parameter. What I really meant is that such level of success is never anticipated, even if it is now a Genki Kawamura production. The guy himself has said that. If Mamoru hosoda who get this much attention, it would still be a big thing, but not beyond prediction and will only cemented his name on the animation business.

Was the budget really that big? Well perhaps when the film grew large the promotion was carried out more intense, but I doubt it was already planned. And how much was the production budget? If the initial target was only 2-3 billion, the budget should be much lower, business wise. The number you were mentioned was already around 3 billion.

enzo1988: To my knowledge, and I've done a lot of research on this, no official admission figures have been reported (that's online) for any of the films you're gathering information on. HOWEVER, with the knowledge I do have, we can work out a reasonable answer!

I can give you the average ticket price dating back to 1955 that you could then use to get an estimated admission figure, but you'd have to guesstimate for films released between 1950-1954 (or earlier). Thankfully, the average ticket price was mostly the same from 1955-1959, so it was probably comparable from 1950-1954 as well (give or take a yen or two). It's also possible, since 1955 was higher than 1956 and 1957, that ticket prices were trending down, too, but I wouldn't assume it was 65 or higher before 1955.


Average Ticket Prices (1955-1979)
1955 - 63
1956 - 62
1957 - 62
1958 - 64
1959 - 65
1960 - 72
1961 - 85
1962 - 115
1963 - 152
1964 - 178
1965 - 203
1966 - 219
1967 - 236
1968 - 262
1969 - 295
1970 - 324
1971 - 366
1972 - 411
1973 - 500
1974 - 631
1975 - 751
1977 - 852
1978 - 923
1979 - 967

So, for example, the site you linked has Gone with the Wind (released in 1952 in Japan), earning a ¥130 million distributor income. Now, before the year 2000, box office figures were reported as distributor income which represented, in most cases, around 55-60% of a film's box office total. It's very important to remember that.

I'd estimate that Gone with the Wind grossed around ¥210 million (~$950,000 in 1952), assuming the ¥130 million distributor income is accurate. No data is available on the avg. ticket price of 1952, but since the mid-1950s had similar ticket prices, I don't think it's a stretch to assume 1952 had a similar one as well. But let's be safe and go slightly lower than 1955 and use 61. That means that Gone with the Wind would have sold something around 3.3/3.4 million admissions.

If you want, I can go through and do this for every film you listed, but it'd take some time and I wouldn't have it finished for a few days. Or, you can do it yourself if you understand how I did it. Let me know.

And I wanted to re-welcome recent members who joined in the past couple months who continue to keep the discussion thriving, and welcome those who just joined!

I'll post the Weekend Estimates soon.

How much money would you estimate Shinkai is making from this film, as far as royalties and such? If it's not much, I'm sure he'd be able to charge a higher rate for future productions based on his film's current success.

I'm not sure on that front. Regardless of what he's making from the film's success, though, he's certainly making a good amount from his success as an author, as well, He had five books in the Top 25 (three related to Your Name, and two others from previous works) this year.

Your Name, the novel, topped the yearly novel sales chart with 1.42 million copies sold and it's still selling very well.

Many thanks. Do not worry, I'll wait days and weeks if I need to. I know there are more than 30 movies. But I'll wait for the time it takes. I do not do these things well. Instead, you are the best I know in this complicated but exciting subject. The box office in Japan.

Sorry for my bad English. I'm from spain.

That'd be amazing! The late-run longevity some films have over there is impressive given how WOM hits here tend to peter out rather quickly once they've exhausted initial interest after the first few weeks.

@Corpse: thanks for the forecast update, as always.

One source stated that the actual total for YN is currently 19.95 Billion Yen, while the other one 19.96 Billion Yen. Either one is soooo damn close to 20 Billion Yen > <

Also one of the source has breakdown and total for your name in the countries that it has release, although not all countries, in US $. The total there is US$ 223.8 Million.

edit:
In case someone here hasn't notice it, your name win in China was even more impressive if ticket price is taken into consideration. With such low average ticket price (compared with other previous winners, namely dr. strange, fantastic beast), its admission exceed an amazing 10 million tickets (from just three days).

Thanks Corpse, we would like to have healthy discussion in future also.

Btw, what with the exchange rate?

"Your name. (Kimi no Na wa. ) anime film has earned 19,957,000,000 yen (about US$175.8 million) as of Sunday"

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... le/.109516

What's the correct numbers in US dollar then?


And kimi no Na wa is unofficially nominated for Academy with a win in LAFCA
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... lm/.109505

Yes.Around $175M.

I think Corpse either cummulating dollars week by week or referring to the exchange rate at the beginning of the release. There's some way to count it. I don't have a clue about which the most correct one, though.

Some bad news for your name from China, by olive, with the opening of highly anticipated local film, The Great Wall the end of next week, your name could retain only a fragment of the screens it had during its opening week. I don't have any info on when Rogue On will come to China, but I think even for this blockbuster it is a bad decision to release at the same time with a local film with this calibre. If i'm not mistaken it's the week after that in US (for RO).

Anyway, I have observed YN first four day compared with FB's. I found they are very similar (linearly). Only difference is that yn is slightly higher (bigger gap if you consider the admission), anyway with this comparison, if FB could gain about 500+ m yuan after its 2nd weekend, yn should at least gain the same cummulative number. It won't be much after that weekend with the coming of TGW. So, don't expect 700 m+ yuan (US$ 95m) at this moment.

Rogue One will be released in January..

Lol it turns that RO US release date is the same as The Great Wall China release date, 16 Dec. 1 month delay is a good option. But this is not China thread lol.

In Japan, RO release date is also 16 dec, that should push some movies out from the game.

The correct way to determine the USD figure for a film is to accumulate the numbers on a week-to-week basis (I even do it more frequently than that, about every 5 days).

You can't simply take a current gross of a film and convert that figure with the current exchange rate. When you do that, films can lose or gain massive numbers, sometimes tens of millions, if there's ever a significant exchange rate shift - which there has been since the US election; the dollar has gained a lot against the yen (almost 11%) since then.

Your Name. is a very recent example of this because BOM, unfortunately, does it. Look at their numbrs for the film: The weekend of 11/19-20 they had it at $171.1 million, and then a week later they have it at $172.1 million. That's a measly $1 million increase, when it actually grossed $1.9 million over the following weekend alone, not even accounting for what it made over the weekdays. It doesn't add up, and causes severely inaccurate USD figures.

The most accurate USD figure is now ~$192.8 million.

Weekend Actuals, complete actuals I should say, haven't been released yet, so they'll probably be available sometime tomorrow instead.

Also, I'll have a First Look at 2017 and which films to watch posted sometime on Wednesday this week.

While I wait for more data from Corpse I start to work.

Most-Attended Imported Films released between 1980-2016

01. 20.03 million - Frozen (2014)
02. 16.83 million - Titanic (1997)
03. 16.20 million - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
04. 14.00 million - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
05. 12.10 million - The Last Samurai (2003)
06. 11.00 million - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
07. 10.69 million - E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
08. 10.10 million - Avatar (2009)
09. 9.00 million - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005)
10. 8.90 million - Armageddon (1998)
11. 8.60 million - Finding Nemo (2003)
12. 8.55 million - Jurassic Park (1993)

Most-Attended Imported Films released between 1980-2016/Population Comparison

01. 15,75 % - Frozen (2014)
02. 13,35 % - Titanic (1997)
03. 12,74 % - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
04. 10,98 % - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
05. 9,48 % - The Last Samurai (2003)
06. 9,02 % - E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
07. 8,61 % - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
08. 7,91 % - Avatar (2009)
09. 7,04 % - Armageddon (1998)
10. 7,04 % - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005)
11. 6,85 % - Jurassic Park (1993)
12. 6,73 % - Finding Nemo (2003)

Most-Attended Imported Films released between 1950-1979 *

01. 3.40 million - Gone with the Wind (1939)

* Estimations by Corpse.

Weekend Actuals will be posted very soon. Sorry for the delay -- I've been pretty busy this week.