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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25303 Location: Classified
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Hey leave Rev alone. At least he wasn't as dumb as some people who were picking Horizon and Fall Guy over Beetlejuice.
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Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:32 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
I'm top the leaderboard! I need to own the role of the smug winner ... for now
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23317 Location: Melbourne Australia
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
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Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:54 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Hmm, so Transformers One opens well. Is this the great Shack comeback?
T1 could get him to $850m. Wicked will get him to $1.15bn. Then he needs more than $150 million from Wild Robot, Here, and Terrifier 3. Should be easy, right? I feel Shack is this group's winner.
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Sun Sep 22, 2024 3:28 am |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Red One looks crap, but it's the sort of crap that can make money. I think Rev has a shot here, too.
I reckon it can make over $100 million.
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Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:51 am |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40439
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Looks like a potential 100m to me. The Rock out of nowhere interfering with the match.
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Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:37 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
I don't like the way the production looks. A 'Santa is kidnapped' action comedy doesn't look as ugly as what I saw in the trailer, but the Dwayne and Evans combo will probably lure people out as it does for the Fast movies.
I don't think anyone would be shocked if it opened to, say, $28-35 million and therefore finished with something like $102m. Very much a Journey type-performer.
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Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:07 am |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
If I'm going to reach $1.3bn (not that that's any sign of success) then it's going to be a slow crawl over it. Personally I do not think I will get there. I'm $12m away and have $1-2m left of Romulus, $200k left of Trap, and post-opening weekend of Never Let Go. I reckon I might even miss it by hundreds of thousands, lol
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Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:43 am |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Algren $1,289,413,954 flip1 -$484,374,421 Shack -$509,392,890 Rev -$780,041,548
Weirdly, what Shack needs to catch me is Rev's current gross and what Rev needs to catch me is Shack's current gross.
I've disregarded Riggs and Flava - sorry guys - as I do not believe they have a realistic chance of catching me. Riggs needs $364,314,910 from Smile 2, Kraven the Hunter, and the rest of Beetlejuice Beetlejuice which probably has another $70m left in the tank. I do not see Smile 2 and Kraven combining for $300 million. So, he's out. Flava is even more unlikely, in my opinion. He needs $835,402,681 from Moana 2 and Joker Deux. They would need to gross at least $420 million each, lol. Not happening. Unless Horizon - Chapter 2 has a great replacement, Flava is currently out of contention.
Can Rev make $780m with Red One, Mufasa, and Sonic 3? Possibly. Let's be optimistic and say that Red One can get $100m. I think it will fall short but let's say it does it. Can Mufasa and Sonic 3 get $340m each? Probably not but it's possible with Christmas. Mufasa is probably not going to be as big as The Lion King (2019) but if it decreases it can still reach the $340m needed. However, Sonic 3 probably won't get to $340m so Mufasa would need to pick up the slack. So it's looking more and more unlikely. Probability: 40%
Can Shack make $509m with Terrifier 3, Here, Wild Robot, Wicked, and whatever's left of Transformers One? Let's say Transformers One has another $50m, so he now needs $460m from the other four. I reckon Wicked can do $300m alone (not sure if I'm alone on that one) so that means he only needs $160m from Terrifier 3, Here and Wild Robot. Certainly doable, in my opinion. It obviously all hinges on how much Wicked goes over/under $300 million. Probability: 80%
Can flip1 make $484m with Venom: The Last Dance, Gladiator 2, and War of the Rohirrim? I believe the animated Lord of the Rings movie will flop this December. Let's say $30m for that. So it boils down to $450 million from Venom 3 and Gladiator 2. The thing is, Gladiator 2 would need to absolutely max out its potential, which I believe is $200m or so. The same goes for Venom as well. It does look like a bigger movie, and the series is consistent. Surely it's above $213m, but by how much. flip1's endgame hinges on Gladiator 2, in my opinion. Will it be a Maverick or a Blade Runner 2049? Probability: 50%
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Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:24 am |
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Shack
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Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40439
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Flip making 500m with that group seems possible to me.
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Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:45 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25303 Location: Classified
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Are we allowed to replace Horizon yet? I'd like Nosferatu but could be convinced by an argument to an awards contender.
Also I'm gonna predict that all of those scenarios happen and you end up in last place.
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Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:59 pm |
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Shack
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Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40439
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
The Chalamet Bob Dylan movie A Complete Unknown is coming out in 25 and an option.
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Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:37 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Flava'd vs The World wrote: Also I'm gonna predict that all of those scenarios happen and you end up in last place. This prediction is in line with your history of bad predictions 
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Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:25 am |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Increasing Shack's probability to 90%.  It will be good for the game if Shack does win it because he will have done it without a $550m+ film, which will yet again show how the order picking isn't as important as the quality of the picks.
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Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:38 am |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Are we allowed to replace Horizon yet? Come on, zwack. Let him replace it. He doesn't stand a chance in hell of getting into the top three let alone winning, so might as well let him replace it (even if Horizon 2 ends up being released this year).
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Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:47 am |
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Shack
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Normally he doesn't need the help, but stuffp can thank me for talking him out of Fly Me to the Moon in favor of the Wild Robot!
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Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:54 am |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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He reserved a higher value pick to replace with Fly Me to the Moon. lol
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Sun Sep 29, 2024 1:35 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Shack is at $827m as of Sunday.
I reckon Wild Robot can give him another $100m, so that's $927m or so.
The rest of Transformers One will bump that up to $950m.
Terrifier 3 and Here will bump him to $1 billion.
So, we're down to Wicked. It needs to do more than $295 million to beat me.
Personally I reckon it will do $350 million. So he beats me and most likely wins it. And I may have even lowballed some of those predictions. Like Wild Robot. It could do $150 million. Here and Terrifier 3 could do more than a combined $50 million. On the flipside, Wicked could just so $220 million. But it feels like it's shaping up to be the go-to magical movie of the season. And girls movies are always underpredicted.
But what do the rest of you think Wicked can do?
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25303 Location: Classified
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
$100M / $350M sounds about right for Wicked. Terrifier is a wild card. Could it hit the level of the Saw sequels? Like $25M opening / $60M total sounds kinda reasonable and how crazy is that?
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Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:46 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Terrifier is a wild card. Could it hit the level of the Saw sequels? Like $25M opening / $60M total sounds kinda reasonable and how crazy is that? That would be such an insane uptick from the second movie. I sorta feel the series crest was 2. I just don't see this character being as widespread-ably popular as Jigsaw. Art is too one note, and so is Leone. It's just gore, and it goes on forever. It's niche. So $10 million is probably its level. Am I saying it can't do, say, $17 million? No. But that's a far cry from $65 million. Also, what movie series has ever gone mainstream with the third installment? It just doesn't happen.
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Shack
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If making the same as Wonka would lead to me losing that's pretty dangerous. Also I like Wicked's release date less than Wonka's.
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Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:38 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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Wicked feels closer to a Frozen than a Wonka to me. And they've cleverly disguised it as a standalone movie instead of having the lingering stench of being a Part One.
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25303 Location: Classified
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
My draft cursed Joker. Only logical explanation. Apologies to all involved.
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Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:32 am |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68286 Location: Seattle, WA
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haha, yes. I knew there had to be a logical explanation!
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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 Re: 2024 Draft Group 2
Joker tanking takes me out of contention 
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