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Author:  Excel [ Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:18 am ]
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Magnus wrote:
the social media numbers are completely useless imo cause of 1D fans, who aren't going to make any significant contribution to the films gross domestically at least .

But the film will have such long staying power, particularly with its premium formats. And being the first real BP contender will help bring people in.



I know 1D fans are crazy but that's a fuckton of social media conversations.

Norm for big blockbusters is $1m for very 8-10k tweets. Suicide Squad is worse ratio I know of, where 760,000 tweets lead to $65m opening day.

If Dunkirk does 500,000 tweets opening day, can't see under $25m.

Author:  Dil [ Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:49 am ]
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I love seeing all the positive reviews for this as that will definitely bring out older audiences, but it is still facing significant competition with Apes which will also be skewing older. I do believe the shorter running time and it not being such a bleak film will definitely help with legs though.

Author:  redfirebird2008 [ Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:20 pm ]
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https://www.apnews.com/0585e4e0cf2346b7 ... pher-Nolan

Quote:
Nolan is cinema’s great watchmaker: a filmmaker of Swiss precision capable of bending and shaping time to suit his grandiose, metronomed movies. Having already reversed time (“Memento”) and warped its fabric (“Interstellar”), Nolan set out to accomplish something different with “Dunkirk,” a movie that crosscuts three story lines (on land, sea and sky) from three different chronologies (one week, one day, one hour) during the famous evacuation.

“I wanted to experiment with a new rhythm,” said Nolan in a recent interview. “What I wanted to do was take what I call the snowballing effect of the third act of my other films, where parallel story lines start to be more than the sum of their parts, and I wanted to try to make the entire film that way, and strip the film of conventional theatrics.”

When “Dunkirk” hits theaters next Friday, audiences will find a landmark war film but not a traditional one. Shot almost entirely with 70mm IMAX cameras from Nolan’s atypically spare 76-page script, “Dunkirk” is an often wordless, almost purely cinematic experience of dogfights in the air and close scrapes at sea. It’s an all-out assault — of tracking shots and montage — by one of the movies’ most maximal filmmakers.

Author:  Algren [ Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:55 pm ]
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Well if that doesn't get people excited, I don't know what will. I am fucking pumped after reading that.

Author:  tree and a half [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:37 am ]
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redfirebird2008 wrote:
Quote:
one of the movies’ most maximal filmmakers.

Hyperbole much?

Author:  Excel [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:41 am ]
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Multiple people claiming that this is Nolans true masterpiece has me thinking the potential here is ENDLESS. It could be top 10 come oscar season still.

Author:  Algren [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:05 am ]
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Bradley spoke too soon.

Author:  tree and a half [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:12 am ]
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Is all this positivity solely based on the few sanctioned comments made by Nolanites about an early screening? Have y'all learned nothing about modern film promotion? Of course, it's possible that Dunkirk is actually a good movie (I honestly hope it is, because I'm going to watch it regardless, and I don't want to waste my time on another bad Nolan misfire), but there's no way to tell yet based on the unreliability of the currently available information.

Author:  redfirebird2008 [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:21 am ]
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tree and a half wrote:
Is all this positivity solely based on the few sanctioned comments made by Nolanites about an early screening? Have y'all learned nothing about modern film promotion? Of course, it's possible that Dunkirk is actually a good movie (I honestly hope it is, because I'm going to watch it regardless, and I don't want to waste my time on another bad Nolan misfire), but there's no way to tell yet based on the unreliability of the currently available information.


Stephanie Zacharek has hated every Nolan movie including TDK. She is praising Dunkirk. She said Dunkirk is Nolan's "only film" to her, meaning she has hated his other work that much. :funny:

Sasha Stone hated Interstellar and loves Dunkirk. Kris Tapley went from saying before he saw Dunkirk that he expected to rank it in the bottom half of Nolan's filmography to now saying after he actually saw it that it might be Nolan's masterpiece.

David Ehrlich said TDKR is worse than Batman & Robin. He claimed that the hype on Twitter for Dunkirk is underselling how good the film is.

Author:  _axiom [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:26 pm ]
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I'm glad to hear that people who haven't liked Noland overrated flicks (Batman movies, Interstellar, The inception) liking this one. I still miss what Nolan promised with his best movie so far - Memento.

Author:  Excel [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:41 pm ]
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Styles character's outcome has been spoiled by some pics. Avoid

Author:  redfirebird2008 [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:21 pm ]
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_axiom wrote:
I'm glad to hear that people who haven't liked Noland overrated flicks (Batman movies, Interstellar, The inception) liking this one. I still miss what Nolan promised with his best movie so far - Memento.


I would take The Prestige over Memento, but those are his best movies by a pretty good margin.

Author:  The Dark Shape [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:52 pm ]
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Excel wrote:
Styles character's outcome has been spoiled by some pics. Avoid


This post sure does sound like a spoiler by itself. ;)

Author:  Excel [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:12 pm ]
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The Dark Shape wrote:
Excel wrote:
Styles character's outcome has been spoiled by some pics. Avoid


This post sure does sound like a spoiler by itself. ;)


Not really. BTS pics.

Author:  _axiom [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dunkirk 225m+ Club - NOLAN IS GOD

redfirebird2008 wrote:
_axiom wrote:
I'm glad to hear that people who haven't liked Noland overrated flicks (Batman movies, Interstellar, The inception) liking this one. I still miss what Nolan promised with his best movie so far - Memento.


I would take The Prestige over Memento, but those are his best movies by a pretty good margin.

When I wrote my comment I originally included The Prestige. But then I realized Memento is by far the best Nolan movie IMHO and The Prestige doesn't quite come there for me. The thing that impresses me the most is that even if you watch the cut that plays in normal time (which is an option on DVD), it's still a great movie - so while the gimmick is certainly phenomenal (both in storytelling and editing) it's really not what makes the movie great.

But yes, those two are easily his strongest works.

Author:  DP07 [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:01 pm ]
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Yeah, well, I'm atheist.

It worked out last time.

Author:  tree and a half [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:32 am ]
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The Dark Shape wrote:
Excel wrote:
Styles character's outcome has been spoiled by some pics. Avoid


This post sure does sound like a spoiler by itself. ;)

It's got sequel written all over it - Styles' character turns out to be the young Princess Elizabeth bound for the throne.

Image

Author:  Excel [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:52 am ]
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This has spiked on Fandango this morning, I expect it to be on both Fandango and MT by days end no doubt

Author:  The Dark Shape [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:17 pm ]
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Spoiler alert: reviews are going to be fantastic.

Author:  Mau [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:41 pm ]
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Have i joined? Cuz #GODLAN

Author:  Biggestgeekever [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:49 pm ]
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Did I join before? If not, I'm definitely in. Thinking this is looking at a 6.0+ multiplier run.

Author:  Rolling Thunder [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:51 pm ]
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This one is dangerously close to getting into overshoot territory. It will be a solid, well-reviewed film with good legs but it's still a WWII movie.

Author:  zwackerm [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:06 pm ]
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Biggestgeekever wrote:
Did I join before? If not, I'm definitely in. Thinking this is looking at a 6.0+ multiplier run.


A 6.0 multiple would be just ASTOUNDING. Can't imagine any reason for the legs being that long. I'm pretty sure the last non Christmas/Oscar season wide release to have legs like that was Frozen.

Author:  Biggestgeekever [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:08 pm ]
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Starting off with a 100 on metacritic after five reviews. It's definitely going to be the most critically well-received Nolan film to date.

edit: Still 100 with 10 reviews

Author:  redfirebird2008 [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:11 pm ]
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Alonso Duralde's review of Interstellar was 50/100 on MC. Dunkirk? 100/100. If that is the kind of change in overall critical reception we are going to see, then there is a pretty good chance it's going above TDK's 82 on MC.

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