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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
As I mentioned this is the season where some of the biggest Hollywood movies are released in Japan which takes away screens. Doremon under-performed which is why the screens were taken away from it. Imagine almost every second weekend a movie like Doremon releasing in theaters so there is no way to give back the lost screens. In general the movies released in December are bigger, plus there are many more movies as well and more movies take up a lot of screens (bigger movies take away big auditoriums and IMAX screens).


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
Jack Sparrow wrote:
As I mentioned this is the season where some of the biggest Hollywood movies are released in Japan which takes away screens. Doremon under-performed which is why the screens were taken away from it. Imagine almost every second weekend a movie like Doremon releasing in theaters so there is no way to give back the lost screens. In general the movies released in December are bigger, plus there are many more movies as well and more movies take up a lot of screens (bigger movies take away big auditoriums and IMAX screens).


the factors supporting it are much more than any other movie my point is not about this. my point is that although no screens competition from hollywood but there is still screens competition from local release. and it still hold somehow well. so saying it doesn't have competition is not right. and if there are hollywood releases, it would take longer time but still


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
Alo I never mentioned there is no competition please read again my posts, I just said it's lesser competition.


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
More competition, need more time to finally get there.... is it supposed to collapse with more competition with hollywood normal release and finish at around 20-25B yen?


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
Alo12345 wrote:
More competition, need more time to finally get there.... is it supposed to collapse with more competition with hollywood normal release and finish at around 20-25B yen?


Again I never said that it would have collapsed
A few posts above I mentioned it would have crossed 30b but with help of holidays to your similar point earlier.


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
Looks like a little over 300k. Depending on how sunday does 1B can still be within reach for this weekend, although it may fall just short as I'm thinking sunday may be a little more deflated compared to the "normal" sunday after a giveaway this time around due to the lower print number but we'll see.


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
JustLurking wrote:
Looks like a little over 300k. Depending on how sunday does 1B can still be within reach for this weekend, although it may fall just short as I'm thinking sunday may be a little more deflated compared to the "normal" sunday after a giveaway this time around due to the lower print number but we'll see.


300k usual location would mean ~500k for the day right?


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
Welp, idc about the argument happening on top of me, but I guess it solely depends on the person if he/she thinks that KnY 9th week or Frozen's 8th week is more impressive than the other.

Back in 2014, I don't really think that there's that much of anime movies back in that year except for maybe Stand by me or Rurouni Kenshin.
So Frozen had a much more similar run than KnY (with them taking the number 1 spot of that year in such a wide gap).

But what makes KnY amazing for me is that it run in the weakest month of the year and still slayed records. Of course, there's the advertisement, commercial, and a lot of sh*ts going on, but there's really no discounts or anything like that to attract customers unlike Frozen which had the Golden Week. So, yeah.
That's my opinion about all of this.


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
ren0080 wrote:
Welp, idc about the argument happening on top of me, but I guess it solely depends on the person if he/she thinks that KnY 9th week or Frozen's 8th week is more impressive than the other.

Back in 2014, I don't really think that there's that much of anime movies back in that year except for maybe Stand by me or Rurouni Kenshin.
So Frozen had a much more similar run than KnY (with them taking the number 1 spot of that year in such a wide gap).

But what makes KnY amazing for me is that it run in the weakest month of the year and still slayed records. Of course, there's the advertisement, commercial, and a lot of sh*ts going on, but there's really no discounts or anything like that to attract customers unlike Frozen which had the Golden Week. So, yeah.
That's my opinion about all of this.


As far as the entire run goes KnY handily slays Frozen. Our comparison was only those particular weekends.


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
Jack Sparrow wrote:
300k usual location would mean ~500k for the day right?


304k means 410k approx.


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
charlie jat wrote:
Jack Sparrow wrote:
300k usual location would mean ~500k for the day right?


304k means 410k approx.


Ratio is 70/30, no?


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
Alo12345 wrote:
charlie jat wrote:
Jack Sparrow wrote:
300k usual location would mean ~500k for the day right?


304k means 410k approx.


Ratio is 70/30, no?


On days when number sre higher ratio go higher too.


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
charlie jat wrote:
Jack Sparrow wrote:
300k usual location would mean ~500k for the day right?


304k means 410k approx.


Alright. It would be slightly miss 1b weekend then I guess.


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
The Saturday is definitely big enough to get it over ¥1 billion. It's bigger than its 7th Saturday, the last giveaway, by 5%, and bigger than most past first Saturdays of ¥1 billion openers like the Star Wars films, Toy Story 4, Weathering With You, and many others.

Sunday will be less than Saturday of course, but with a Saturday near ¥600 million, Sunday would need a 30% drop or so to miss ¥1 billion over the weekend. This will probably be the biggest drop Sunday has seen to date, but 19% has been the highest it's declined on a giveaway weekend so far, so 30% is probably unlikely. There's still somewhere around 40/45% of the giveaway available tomorrow.

But this is why I wasn't predicting ¥1 billion even though it was, and still is, more likely than not. Because if it would miss with ¥950-999 million, some might think it's somehow disappointing despite the 40/50% INCREASE and record-breaking 9th weekend.

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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
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The Saturday is definitely big enough to get it over ¥1 billion. It's bigger than its 7th Saturday, the last giveaway, by 5%, and bigger than most past first Saturdays of ¥1 billion openers like the Star Wars films, Toy Story 4, Weathering With You, and many others.

Sunday will be less than Saturday of course, but with a Saturday near ¥600 million, Sunday would need a 30% drop or so to miss ¥1 billion over the weekend. This will probably be the biggest drop Sunday has seen to date, but 19% has been the highest it's declined on a giveaway weekend so far, so 30% is probably unlikely. There's still somewhere around 40/45% of the giveaway available tomorrow.

But this is why I wasn't predicting ¥1 billion even though it was, and still is, more likely than not. Because if it would miss with ¥950-999 million, some might think it's somehow disappointing despite the 40/50% INCREASE and record-breaking 9th weekend.


Are you sure ? I'm more expecting something like $2,8M-$3M tomorrow and ¥900mn-¥950mn, but if there is a 30% drop tomorrow compared to Saturday, it would maybe give a $10M weekend ?


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So... I just watched it, manage to find a place with Japanese audio

1. No audience engagement, I expect they'll cheer in some scene or shipscreaming in some scene, but no, they're all quiet . Must be because I'm not in a capital city. Capital people usually engage more, some of them even cosplay to cinema.

2. Technical part, the visual doesn't differ much from tv season, but it's not a complain as ufotable is already delivered amazing quality tv show. The soundtrack is also doesn't differ much from tv, but again, tv is already has superb soundtrack. Even with similarity with Fate soundtrack, which is orchestrally epic instead of more Japanese traditional music I kinda expected from this setting.

3. Now for the content itself, I'll described it with one word: "Dignity". All characters have dignity to some extent, even the villain side. Which is not surprised as they are used to be human, they're not born evil. Call me sexist but female author really has amazing skill to make audience sympathize with her characters. Not only characters have dignity, but other elements, the process, the result, the aftermath, they're so dignified, almost to the point of being a propaganda.

4. I also bring my parents to watch it. Both of whom haven't watch demon slayer before (they're not just into anime thing). Results are one of them sleep and complain it's too loud and another one said she doesn't understand what's going on. It makes me realize that the biggest Japanese film is gonna be a film where it requires you to watch something before, which is not new as biggest American film (Force Awakens), biggest Chinese film (Wolf Warrior 2) and biggest worldwide film (Endgames) all require you to watch something before.


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
LPLC wrote:
Corpse wrote:
The Saturday is definitely big enough to get it over ¥1 billion. It's bigger than its 7th Saturday, the last giveaway, by 5%, and bigger than most past first Saturdays of ¥1 billion openers like the Star Wars films, Toy Story 4, Weathering With You, and many others.

Sunday will be less than Saturday of course, but with a Saturday near ¥600 million, Sunday would need a 30% drop or so to miss ¥1 billion over the weekend. This will probably be the biggest drop Sunday has seen to date, but 19% has been the highest it's declined on a giveaway weekend so far, so 30% is probably unlikely. There's still somewhere around 40/45% of the giveaway available tomorrow.

But this is why I wasn't predicting ¥1 billion even though it was, and still is, more likely than not. Because if it would miss with ¥950-999 million, some might think it's somehow disappointing despite the 40/50% INCREASE and record-breaking 9th weekend.


Are you sure ? I'm more expecting something like $2,8M-$3M tomorrow and ¥900mn-¥950mn, but if there is a 30% drop tomorrow compared to Saturday, it would maybe give a $10M weekend ?


Why would it drop 50% tomorrow? It hasn't come anywhere near that, not even half, on any of its Sundays. Of course, since this Saturday was up almost 100% versus last Saturday (and thus almost as strong as last weekend by itself), the drop for tomorrow will likely be its biggest Sunday drop yet, but to go from 20% to 50% is a massive jump.

It's on course for around ¥1 billion (~$9.5 million), maybe a tad lower, maybe a tad higher. We just need to wait and see versus speculating precise numbers.

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Post Re: Japan Box Office: Biggest Openers Since 2015
Usual Locations (~70% of Market) - Weekend Admissions

All Biggest Saturday's Since 2015:

Saturday Results (~70% of Market):
Tickets Sold/Available Tickets (% Capacity), [Theaters/Showings], Film Title
983,582/1,278,438 (76.9% capacity), [267/6,080] - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (Oct., 2020)
849,337/1,205,680 (70.4% capacity), [265/5,846] - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (Oct., 2020) *2nd Sat.*
666,348/1,132,873 (58.8% capacity), [267/5,554] - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (Oct., 2020) *3rd Sat.*
455,669/1,042,619 (43.7% capacity), [268/4,885] - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (Oct., 2020) *5th Sat.*
452,803/1,077,542 (42.0% capacity), [267/3,777] - Frozen II (Nov., 2019)
446,065/1,026,179 (43.4% capacity), [263/4,776] - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (Oct., 2020) *4th Sat.*
348,024/605,267 (57.4% capacity), [239/1,676] - Detective Conan: Crimson Love Letter (Apr., 2017)
345,143/655,976 (52.6% capacity), [249/1,832] - Detective Conan: Zero the Enforcer (Apr., 2018)
332,987/725,315 (45.9% capacity), [258/2,202] - Detective Conan: The Fist of Blue Sapphire (Apr., 2019)
330,349/701,865 (47.1% capacity), [247/2,864] - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (July, 2017)
317,709/530,456 (59.9% capacity), [231/1,727] - Yo-Kai Watch: Great King Enma and the 5 Stories, Nyan! (Dec., 2015)
304,765/606,962 (50.2% capacity), [266/2,955] - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (Oct., 2020) *9th Sat.*
303,762/991,341 (30.6% capacity), [266/3,582] - Frozen II (Nov., 2019) *2nd Sat.*
293,246/714,702 (41.0% capacity), [236/2,789] - Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Dec., 2015)
289,656/530,905 (54.5% capacity), [230/1,502] - Detective Conan: The Darkest Nightmare (Apr., 2016)
289,177/798,886 (36.2% capacity), [268/4,057] - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (Oct., 2020) *7th Sat.*
286,726/658,842 (43.5% capacity), [231/2,256] - One Piece Film Gold (July, 2016)
283,482/670,255 (42.3% capacity), [254/2,527] - Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec., 2017)
279,289/719,848 (38.8% capacity), [261/2,370] - Weathering With You (July, 2019)
274,872/775,754 (35.4% capacity), [262/2,657] - Toy Story 4 (July, 2019)
274,621/729,821 (37.6% capacity), [267/2,669] - Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Dec., 2019)
271,313/719,670 (37.7% capacity), [261/2,374] - Aladdin (June, 2019)
267,547/524,773 (51.0% capacity), [218/1,439] - Your Name. (Aug., 2016) *2nd Sat.*
266,911/816,498 (32.7% capacity), [251/3,196] - Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (July, 2018)
262,671/667,610 (39.3% capacity), [245/2,327] - Beauty and the Beast (Apr., 2017)
260,076/527,874 (49.3% capacity), [218/1,416] - Your Name. (Aug., 2016) *3rd Sat.*
256,171/625,193 (40.9% capacity), [260/2,208] - Aladdin (June, 2019) *2nd Sat.*
248,763/515,707 (48.2% capacity), [220/1,365] - Your Name. (Aug., 2016) *5th Sat.*
248,613/533,783 (46.6% capacity), [258/2,293] - Avengers: Endgame (Apr., 2019)
241,332/608,132 (39.7% capacity), [250/1,979] - Code Blue (July, 2018)
239,231/508,838 (47.0% capacity), [247/1,870] - Beauty and the Beast (Apr., 2017) *2nd Sat.*
228,918/588,463 (38.9% capacity), [260/2,021] - Aladdin (June, 2019) *3rd Sat.*
227,517/473,967 (48.0% capacity), [221/1,582] - Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F (Apr., 2015)
224,049/629,042 (35.6% capacity), [261/2,139] - Weathering With You (July, 2019) *2nd Sat.*
222,394/667,569 (33.3% capacity), [268/3,906] - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (Oct., 2020) *6th Sat.*
219,551/851,490 (25.8% capacity), [266/3,279] - Frozen II (Nov., 2019) *3rd Sat.*
217,237/519,533 (41.8% capacity), [218/1,410] - Your Name. (Aug., 2016) *4th Sat.*
217,221/919,956 (23.6% capacity), [258/3,250] - Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald (Nov., 2018)
209,804/462,825 (45.3% capacity), [229/1,366] - Detective Conan: Sunflowers of Inferno (Apr., 2015)
205,137/648,401 (31.6% capacity), [259/2,096] - Godzilla: King of the Monsters (June, 2019)
202,075/451,836 (44.7% capacity), [218/1,257] - Your Name. (Aug., 2016)
201,003/629,398 (31.9% capacity), [258/2,035] - Detective Conan: The Fist of Blue Sapphire (Apr., 2019) *2nd Sat.*

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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Demon Slayer Obliterating Record Books
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Demon Slayer: Mugen Train - Daily Performance Tracker

10/16 - Fri.: ¥1,268,724,700 ($12.0 million) / 910,507
10/17 - Sat.: ¥1,701,723,350 ($16.2 million) / 1,270,234
10/18 - Sun.: ¥1,652,669,400 ($15.7 million) / 1,239,752
10/19 - Mon.: ¥735,000,000 ($7.0 million) / 545,000
10/20 - Tues.: ¥545,000,000 ($5.1 million) / 395,000
10/21 - Wed.: ¥635,000,000 ($6.0 million) / 505,000
10/22 - Thur.: ¥465,000,000 ($4.5 million) / 340,000
10/23 - Fri.: ¥700,000,000 ($6.7 million) / 510,000
10/24 - Sat.: ¥1,500,944,600 ($14.3 million) / 1,115,182
10/25 - Sun.: ¥1,540,504,150 ($14.7 million) / 1,157,654
10/26 - Mon.: ¥620,000,000 ($5.9 million) / 460,000
10/27 - Tues.: ¥410,000,000 ($3.9 million) / 300,000
10/28 - Wed.: ¥575,000,000 ($5.5 million) / 430,000
10/29 - Thur.: ¥390,000,000 ($3.7 million) / 285,000
10/30 - Fri.: ¥555,000,000 ($5.3 million) / 405,000
10/31 - Sat.: ¥1,212,312,550 ($11.6 million) / 887,893
11/01 - Sun.: ¥1,286,354,600 ($12.3 million) / 1,140,390 *Discount Day*
11/02 - Mon: ¥820,000,000 ($7.8 million) / 605,000 *Holiday Boosted*
11/03 - Tues.: ¥1,185,000,000 ($11.3 million) / 900,000 *Holiday*
11/04 - Wed.: ¥350,000,000 ($3.3 million) / 260,000
11/05 - Thur.: ¥230,000,000 ($2.2 million) / 170,000
11/06 - Fri.: ¥325,000,000 ($3.1 million) / 240,000
11/07 - Sat.: ¥863,827,750 ($8.3 million) / 628,614
11/08 - Sun.: ¥909,098,150 ($8.8 million) / 667,179
11/09 - Mon.: ¥315,000,000 ($3.0 million) / 230,000
11/10 - Tues.: ¥220,000,000 ($2.1 million) / 160,000
11/11 - Wed.: ¥295,000,000 ($2.8 million) / 230,000
11/12 - Thur.: ¥200,000,000 ($1.9 million) / 145,000
11/13 - Fri.: ¥310,000,000 ($3.0 million) / 225,000
11/14 - Sat.: ¥795,343,500 ($7.6 million) / 611,418
11/15 - Sun.: ¥726,313,550 ($6.9 million) / 535,986
11/16 - Mon.: ¥265,000,000 ($2.5 million) / 195,000
11/17 - Tues.: ¥165,000,000 ($1.6 million) / 120,000
11/18 - Wed.: ¥240,000,000 ($2.3 million) / 185,000
11/19 - Thur.: ¥165,000,000 ($1.6 million) / 120,000
11/20 - Fri.: ¥240,000,000 ($2.3 million) / 170,000
11/21 - Sat.: ¥439,606,550 ($4.2 million) / 314,726
11/22 - Sun.: ¥592,738,550 ($5.7 million) / 433,315
11/23 - Mon.: ¥460,110,250 ($4.4 million) / 357,741 *Holiday*
11/24 - Tues.: ¥125,000,000 ($1.2 million) / 90,000
11/25 - Wed.: ¥160,000,000 ($1.5 million) / 120,000
11/26 - Thur.: ¥120,000,000 ($1.1 million) / 85,000
11/27 - Fri.: ¥195,000,000 ($1.9 million) / 130,000
11/28 - Sat.: ¥556,443,300 ($5.3 million) / 392,017
11/29 - Sun: ¥448,060,450 ($4.3 million) / 320,031
11/30 - Mon.: ¥140,000,000 ($1.3 million) / 105,000
12/01 - Tues.: ¥170,000,000 ($1.6 million) / 145,000 *Discount Day*
12/02 - Wed.: ¥125,000,000 ($1.2 million) /100,000
12/03 - Thur.: ¥x95,000,000 ($0.9 million) / x70,000
12/04 - Fri.: ¥145,000,000 ($1.4 million) / 105,000
12/05 - Sat.: ¥319,013,550 ($3.1 million) / 225,976
12/06 - Sun.: ¥336,505,700 ($3.2 million) / 239,874
12/07 - Mon.: ¥x95,000,000 ($0.9 million) / x70,000 *est.*
12/08 - Tues.: ¥x70,000,000 ($0.7 million) / x50,000 *est.*
12/09 - Wed.: ¥110,000,000 ($1.1 million) / x85,000 *est.*
12/10 - Thur.: ¥x80,000,000 ($0.8 million) / x55,000 *est.*
12/11 - Fri.: ¥105,000,000 ($1.0 million) / x75,000 *est.*
12/12 - Sat.: ¥590,000,000 ($5.7 million) / 420,000 *est.*


58-Day Cumulative Total: ¥29,925,575,300 ($285.2 million) / 22,280,216

Note: Mon.-Fri. are estimates (excluding Holiday Mondays), therefore adding up each day won't equal the actual total.

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“We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.”
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”
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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: WKND Actuals (12/05-06); 2021 Begins!
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660M away and only “maybe” by Sunday? Not sure if this is a general instinct toward conservatism or bad news about the weekend incoming


I predicted 850-1.05 over on BOT on Wednesday, which is why I thought 30B should be for sure given the Fri cume. Very happy to see things playing out as I expected — ~+50% for a 1B non-holiday (yeah, kind of like a holiday) 9th weekend is just nutso level stuff. In keeping with the DS tradition :thumbsup:


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
Corpse wrote:
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The Saturday is definitely big enough to get it over ¥1 billion. It's bigger than its 7th Saturday, the last giveaway, by 5%, and bigger than most past first Saturdays of ¥1 billion openers like the Star Wars films, Toy Story 4, Weathering With You, and many others.

Sunday will be less than Saturday of course, but with a Saturday near ¥600 million, Sunday would need a 30% drop or so to miss ¥1 billion over the weekend. This will probably be the biggest drop Sunday has seen to date, but 19% has been the highest it's declined on a giveaway weekend so far, so 30% is probably unlikely. There's still somewhere around 40/45% of the giveaway available tomorrow.

But this is why I wasn't predicting ¥1 billion even though it was, and still is, more likely than not. Because if it would miss with ¥950-999 million, some might think it's somehow disappointing despite the 40/50% INCREASE and record-breaking 9th weekend.


Are you sure ? I'm more expecting something like $2,8M-$3M tomorrow and ¥900mn-¥950mn, but if there is a 30% drop tomorrow compared to Saturday, it would maybe give a $10M weekend ?


Why would it drop 50% tomorrow? It hasn't come anywhere near that, not even half, on any of its Sundays. Of course, since this Saturday was up almost 100% versus last Saturday (and thus almost as strong as last weekend by itself), the drop for tomorrow will likely be its biggest Sunday drop yet, but to go from 20% to 50% is a massive jump.

It's on course for around ¥1 billion (~$9.5 million), maybe a tad lower, maybe a tad higher. We just need to wait and see versus speculating precise numbers.


Yes in fact you are right, I was wrong I would have expected this if Saturday had not been so strong, but knowing that it was about ¥ 600mn today and that there are still gifts for tomorrow I think that we can even expect a drop a little below 30% which would even give a weekend to ¥1bn- ¥1.05bn even if it seems perhaps a little too optimistic.

@Corpse when you made your prediction for the weekend at ¥950mn yesterday, were you expecting such a strong Saturday around ¥600mn? Or more around ¥500-550mn maybe?


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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
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Yes in fact you are right, I was wrong I would have expected this if Saturday had not been so strong, but knowing that it was about ¥ 600mn today and that there are still gifts for tomorrow I think that we can even expect a drop a little below 30% which would even give a weekend to ¥1bn- ¥1.05bn even if it seems perhaps a little too optimistic.

@Corpse when you made your prediction for the weekend at ¥950mn yesterday, were you expecting such a strong Saturday around ¥600mn? Or more around ¥500-550mn maybe?


Well, given how huge this Saturday was, it's not wrong to anticipate a possible sharp decline tomorrow, but 50% would put it below last Sunday, and I don't think that's likely in the slightest. There are still ~320,000 books available, so Sunday will still benefit from the giveaway. Not as much, of course, but certainly enough to avoid huge drop-off like that. There isn't any precedent here, which makes it harder to predict, but I'd expect something like a 30% drop or so on Sunday (~10% higher than the previous high) as I mentioned, but we'll just have to see what happens in the end.

I was expecting between ¥550-600 million today since pre-sales were comfortably above the Saturday from two weeks ago which resulted in ¥556.4 million. It was likely to beat that number from two weeks ago, which it did, but you want to leave some room just in case. And then around ¥400 million or so for the Sunday.

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I was figuring a low end of 500+350 (if it ended up being just insanely ridiculously skewed toward PS vs walk ups) and high of 600+450.


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Post Re: Japan Box Office: Biggest Openers Since 2015
Usual Locations (~70% of Market) - Saturday Admissions

Biggest Openers Since 2015:

Opening or First Saturday Results (~70% of Market):
Tickets Sold/Available Tickets (% Capacity), [Theaters/Showings], Film Title
983,582/1,278,438 (76.9% capacity), [267/6,080] - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (Oct., 2020)
452,803/1,077,542 (42.0% capacity), [267/3,777] - Frozen II (Nov., 2019)
348,024/605,267 (57.4% capacity), [239/1,676] - Detective Conan: Crimson Love Letter (Apr., 2017)
345,143/655,976 (52.6% capacity), [249/1,832] - Detective Conan: Zero the Enforcer (Apr., 2018)
332,987/725,315 (45.9% capacity), [258/2,202] - Detective Conan: The Fist of Blue Sapphire (Apr., 2019)
330,349/701,865 (47.1% capacity), [247/2,864] - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (July, 2017)
317,709/530,456 (59.9% capacity), [231/1,727] - Yo-Kai Watch: Great King Enma and the 5 Stories, Nyan! (Dec., 2015)
293,246/714,702 (41.0% capacity), [236/2,789] - Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Dec., 2015)
289,656/530,905 (54.5% capacity), [230/1,502] - Detective Conan: The Darkest Nightmare (Apr., 2016)
286,726/658,842 (43.5% capacity), [231/2,256] - One Piece Film Gold (July, 2016)
283,482/670,255 (42.3% capacity), [254/2,527] - Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec., 2017)
279,289/719,848 (38.8% capacity), [261/2,370] - Weathering With You (July, 2019)
274,872/775,754 (35.4% capacity), [262/2,657] - Toy Story 4 (July, 2019)
274,621/729,871 (37.6% capacity), [267/2,669] - Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Dec., 2019)
271,313/719,670 (37.7% capacity), [261/2,374] - Aladdin (June, 2019)
266,911/816,498 (32.7% capacity), [251/3,196] - Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (July, 2018)
262,671/667,610 (39.3% capacity), [245/2,327] - Beauty and the Beast (Apr., 2017)
248,613/533,783 (46.6% capacity), [258/2,293] - Avengers: Endgame (Apr., 2019)
241,332/608,132 (39.7% capacity), [250/1,979] - Code Blue (July, 2018)
227,517/473,967 (48.0% capacity), [221/1,582] - Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F (Apr., 2015)
217,221/919,956 (23.6% capacity), [258/3,250] - Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald (Nov., 2018)
209,804/462,825 (45.3% capacity), [229/1,366] - Detective Conan: Sunflowers of Inferno (Apr., 2015)
205,137/648,401 (31.6% capacity), [259/2,096] - Godzilla: King of the Monsters (June, 2019)
202,075/451,836 (44.7% capacity), [218/1,257] - Your Name. (Aug., 2016)
196,491/520,369 (37.8% capacity), [237/1,744] - Jurassic World (Aug., 2015)
193,053/648,160 (29.8% capacity), [252/2,037] - Dragon Ball Super: Broly (Dec., 2018)
191,730/585,196 (32.8% capacity), [254/1,787] - One Piece: Stampede (Aug., 2019)
187,901/485,825 (38.7% capacity), [235/1,574] - Doraemon: Nobita's Treasure Island (Mar., 2018)
174,835/517,134 (33.8% capacity), [260/1,835] - Spider-Man: Far From Home (June, 2019)
174,797/501,322 (34.8% capacity), [240/1,487] - Doraemon: Nobita's Great Adventure in the Antarctic (Mar., 2017)
166,650/766,440 (21.7% capacity), [241/2,556] - Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (Nov., 2016)
165,385/471,596 (35.1% capacity), [262/2,020] - The Lion King (Aug., 2019)
157,910/547,894 (28.9% capacity), [252/1,655] - Doraemon: Nobita's Chronicle of Moon Exploration (Mar., 2019)
157,739/484,007 (32.6% capacity), [247/1,422] - Masquerade Hotel (Jan., 2019)
155,073/445,042 (34.8% capacity), [262/2,253] - New Interpretation Record of the Three Kingdoms (Dec., 2020)
151,875/419,163 (36.2% capacity), [251/1,655] - Avengers: Infinity War (Apr., 2018)
139,061/668,663 (20.8% capacity), [236/2,346] - Finding Dory (July, 2016)
136,031/515,406 (26.4% capacity), [233/1,460] - Doraemon: Nobita and the Birth of Japan (Mar., 2016)
136,021/413,696 (32.9% capacity), [259/1,802] - Pokemon: Mewtwo Strikes Back - Evolution (July, 2019)


Also, while Demon Slayer's record 9th weekend is obviously the big event this weekend, New Interpretation Record of the Three Kingdoms did very, very well yesterday. It'll easily open above ¥500 million this weekend, maybe even ¥600 million depending on Sunday. That'll give it a 3-day total between ¥700-800 million or so. Very impressive opening that will likely get it above a ¥4 billion (~$40 million) total, with a fair shot at reaching the blockbuster milestone of ¥5 billion (~$50 million).

This list only includes the opening or first Saturdays, not just the biggest ones in general like the chart above that I've posted almost each week since Demon Slayer keeps landing on it.

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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Weekend Forecast (12/12-13)
Just to say because I have inquired a little (even if around 30% tomorrow is more likely) : If tomorrow the drop is equal to 25%, the 9th weekend of Demon Slayer will manage to exceed its 6th weekend (not in admissions) and reach $10M this weekend.

It's just huge but unfortunately I don't think Demon Slayer will be able to take Frozen's record for 10th best weekend next week.

Actually @Corpse I don't know what you think but I tell myself more and more that Demon Slayer could go for the $350M because such big numbers without holidays predict big figures for the next 2/3 weeks of holidays, right ?


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