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Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Saying no

Is it my responsibility if someone else can’t say no to me? I have friends that say yes to me and then express to me later they wanted to say no and felt guilty so they said yes and couldn’t get homework done or something. I’ve expressed to these friends if they wanna tell me no to feel free, but it’s not my responsibility if they have a guilty conscience when it comes to saying no.

Author:  Thegun [ Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:31 pm ]
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What are you making these kids do?

Author:  Jmart [ Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:23 pm ]
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Yes. It means you’ve put them in the position that they’d rather make you happy instead of possibly dealing with you when you’re not. They probably think you’re being disingenuous when you tell them that they’re free to say no, probably because they don’t feel they are free to say no.

Author:  Shack [ Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:40 pm ]
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It depends how you're saying it. If you're passive aggressively mad at them when they say no they will notice it.

Author:  zwackerm [ Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:19 pm ]
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Shack wrote:
It depends how you're saying it. If you're passive aggressively mad at them when they say no they will notice it.

I don’t get mad usually. Sometimes I do get annoyed because they’ll say they’re “busy” when I’m pretty sure they don’t want to. I hate when people try to people please and aren’t honest so if I think someone doesn’t want to do something I’ll call them out. But if someone is just truthful with their yes or no it doesn’t bother me.

Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:24 am ]
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I don't think you are responsible for their actions but being a friend you need to find out why they feel that they cannot be genuine with you. That's a key part of friendship anyways. Maybe its the way you ask them for these "things" that they feel the need to say yes otherwise they feel you will be offended.

Author:  Chippy [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:18 am ]
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Jmart wrote:
Yes. It means you’ve put them in the position that they’d rather make you happy instead of possibly dealing with you when you’re not. They probably think you’re being disingenuous when you tell them that they’re free to say no, probably because they don’t feel they are free to say no.


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Author:  zwackerm [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Saying no

Jmart wrote:
Yes. It means you’ve put them in the position that they’d rather make you happy instead of possibly dealing with you when you’re not. They probably think you’re being disingenuous when you tell them that they’re free to say no, probably because they don’t feel they are free to say no.


I think I accept no pretty well, except when

1. They cancel plans we already made on short notice
2. They tell me maybe for a long time and only say no when the time comes
3. Tell me they're busy when I know for a fact they're not

I appreciate solid nos, but I hate when people pretend like they wanna do things with me when they clearly do not. Like, saying maybe and then no at the last minute doesn't make them a better person.

Author:  Chippy [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:54 am ]
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Start accepting maybe's as no's. Nobody is seriously going to say maybe and then later say yes. That's literally the point of maybe.

And... it sounds like you don't take no pretty well.

Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:27 pm ]
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Chippy wrote:
Start accepting maybe's as no's. Nobody is seriously going to say maybe and then later say yes. That's literally the point of maybe.

And... it sounds like you don't take no pretty well.


True it sounds like that.

Author:  Shack [ Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:59 am ]
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zwackerm wrote:
I think I accept no pretty well, except when

1. They cancel plans we already made on short notice
2. They tell me maybe for a long time and only say no when the time comes
3. Tell me they're busy when I know for a fact they're not
.


Then you don't really accept nos

Author:  Rev [ Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:59 am ]
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Look in the mirror and ask yourself why I’m the way I am.

Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:51 am ]
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You asked a question and everyone here gave you good advice and answered your question truthfully, and now you’re arguing with their response. I don’t understand what the point is of this thread unless it was intended as a flame thread.

Author:  Chippy [ Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:58 am ]
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I mean, in general, I believe it's human nature to agree to stuff or say yes instinctual. So it's hard for people to say no. Props to people who can.

Author:  Mau [ Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:46 pm ]
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I say No on a daily basis multiple times a day.

If you're not comfortable doing/saying something just say now it's not your job to make others happy.But if you're gonna say no, you gotta accept when ppl blow you off. That's the way it is.
You sound like QUITE the person and hard to deal with.

Author:  Mau [ Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:50 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote:
Jmart wrote:
Yes. It means you’ve put them in the position that they’d rather make you happy instead of possibly dealing with you when you’re not. They probably think you’re being disingenuous when you tell them that they’re free to say no, probably because they don’t feel they are free to say no.


I think I accept no pretty well, except when

1. They cancel plans we already made on short notice
2. They tell me maybe for a long time and only say no when the time comes
3. Tell me they're busy when I know for a fact they're not

I appreciate solid nos, but I hate when people pretend like they wanna do things with me when they clearly do not. Like, saying maybe and then no at the last minute doesn't make them a better person.


Gurl plz, you're the definition of white trash and I don't even know ur white. Like really you are so entitled you think everyone is at your disposal that when they say no you bitch? And oh dear I can picture that CLEARLY in my head. You're the kind of guy who bitches about these little.thibgs for years

"Remember when we agree on watching Joker on this date but you blew me off last minute because your dad had a n accident? How does your dad dare to fall off the stairs when you already agreed to go with me?"

You're that kind of boy, I know you are.

Author:  zwackerm [ Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Saying no

Mau wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Jmart wrote:
Yes. It means you’ve put them in the position that they’d rather make you happy instead of possibly dealing with you when you’re not. They probably think you’re being disingenuous when you tell them that they’re free to say no, probably because they don’t feel they are free to say no.


I think I accept no pretty well, except when

1. They cancel plans we already made on short notice
2. They tell me maybe for a long time and only say no when the time comes
3. Tell me they're busy when I know for a fact they're not

I appreciate solid nos, but I hate when people pretend like they wanna do things with me when they clearly do not. Like, saying maybe and then no at the last minute doesn't make them a better person.


Gurl plz, you're the definition of white trash and I don't even know ur white. Like really you are so entitled you think everyone is at your disposal that when they say no you bitch? And oh dear I can picture that CLEARLY in my head. You're the kind of guy who bitches about these little.thibgs for years

"Remember when we agree on watching Joker on this date but you blew me off last minute because your dad had a n accident? How does your dad dare to fall off the stairs when you already agreed to go with me?"

You're that kind of boy, I know you are.

Lol.

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