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Shack wrote:

Chippy wrote:

I'll defend every policy of hers. You hate 9/11 first responders? You hate immigrants? You hate a minimum wage increase?

Which policy of hers do you think is racist?

I'm saying the real reason Trump is attacking Omar and AOC is he thinks they're Islam and communist respectively and therefore he believes they hate and want to change what America stands for. Islam violates nearly all the American amendments and AOC if she had her way would upend capitalism

You can claim that Trump is still bigoted for being an Islamophobe or he's going too far with his characterization of AOC as a communist. But whether Islamophobia is justified is more complicated than just saying orange man is racist and wants brown people to go back to their country. The people making everything about skin colour are the left again and again

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"It is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
- Matthew 19:23-24

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"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.'"
- Matthew 25:41-45

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"He who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and he who gives gifts to the rich--both come to poverty." - Proverbs 22:16

Corpse wrote:

Basically everyone on both sides these days:

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"Nancy Pelosi said the WORDS that the President used were racist. But those same words are in the Dictionary. Does that mean that the Dictionary is now racist?"

Groucho wrote:

Man, I can't get over how people will bend over backwards to defend the corrupt, racist, criminal, evil administration.

The fact that there's a third of our population that will defend this asshole no matter what makes me sad.

Many are the same people who wave Confederate Flags and nazi banners, not realizing how they have always been on the wrong side of history.

zwackerm wrote:

Lol saying someone “needs a round” not a death threat.

zwackerm wrote:

Lol saying someone “needs a round” not a death threat.

If it’s funny watching people “bend over backwards” to defend trump, it’s also funny watching people bend over backwards to take everything he does and says as offensive and read into every detail to such a degree.

stuffp wrote:

zwackerm wrote:

Lol saying someone “needs a round” not a death threat.

That's BS...it's different though if a person says it as a joke. But police officer is a position where such a joke is not appropriate.

zwackerm wrote:

Groucho wrote:

zwackerm wrote:

Wow, thanks for proving my point! Does your back hurt now?

Chippy wrote:

A joke about her getting shot? What does a "joke" about a cop shooting a congresswoman have to do with... anti-trump bias?

Do you typically not care when a cop threatens a government employee with death?

Author:	i.hope [ Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:41 pm ]
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Shack wrote: Chippy wrote: I'll defend every policy of hers. You hate 9/11 first responders? You hate immigrants? You hate a minimum wage increase? Which policy of hers do you think is racist? I'm saying the real reason Trump is attacking Omar and AOC is he thinks they're Islam and communist respectively and therefore he believes they hate and want to change what America stands for. Islam violates nearly all the American amendments and AOC if she had her way would upend capitalism You can claim that Trump is still bigoted for being an Islamophobe or he's going too far with his characterization of AOC as a communist. But whether Islamophobia is justified is more complicated than just saying orange man is racist and wants brown people to go back to their country. The people making everything about skin colour are the left again and again Where is the First Amendment? Free speech? Freedom of religion? The guy is a wannabe autocrat. He is against what the First Amendment stands for. The leader of the government tells citizens to "go back where they came from" because of their religion and political view. AOC and Omar are US citizens and legislators. They belong here. Telling people to get out from where they belong for whatever reasons is racist. Also, fascism encompasses racism.

Author:	i.hope [ Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:28 pm ]
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By Shack's logic, Christianity's "anti-capitalistic" teachings could be cause for ejection from the country. Jesus once told a rich young man to give up all his possessions to the poor and follow Him. Then he would find treasure in Heaven. He also said: Quote: "It is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." - Matthew 19:23-24 The rich is not very welcome in Heaven. Jesus also defended the rights of the poor, strangers and prisoners to food, clothes, housing and healthcare: Quote: "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.'" - Matthew 25:41-45 Quote: "He who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and he who gives gifts to the rich--both come to poverty." - Proverbs 22:16 These egalitarian and socialistic teachings of the Bible could upend American capitalism, right? Anyone espousing these teachings should go packing?

Author:	Price [ Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:12 pm ]
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Sorry Chippy, it is no one's fault in here that you were dropped on your head when you were born. Twice.

Author:	Corpse [ Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:14 pm ]
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Basically everyone on both sides these days:

Author:	Price [ Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:24 pm ]
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Corpse wrote: Basically everyone on both sides these days: So that's what became of NuttyMadam after Twilight ended.

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Author:	Corpse [ Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:26 pm ]
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How do you remember her?

Author:	i.hope [ Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:30 am ]
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Quote: "Nancy Pelosi said the WORDS that the President used were racist. But those same words are in the Dictionary. Does that mean that the Dictionary is now racist?"

Author:	i.hope [ Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:14 pm ]
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Instead of former lobbyists, they could hire an academic/researcher with expertise in environmental science and public policy for a change. The health and environmental outcomes would be so much different.

Author:	Chippy [ Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:18 pm ]
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something something drain the swamp

Author:	Groucho [ Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:28 pm ]
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Man, I can't get over how people will bend over backwards to defend the corrupt, racist, criminal, evil administration. The fact that there's a third of our population that will defend this asshole no matter what makes me sad. Many are the same people who wave Confederate Flags and nazi banners, not realizing how they have always been on the wrong side of history.

Author:	i.hope [ Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:37 pm ]
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Groucho wrote: Man, I can't get over how people will bend over backwards to defend the corrupt, racist, criminal, evil administration. The fact that there's a third of our population that will defend this asshole no matter what makes me sad. Many are the same people who wave Confederate Flags and nazi banners, not realizing how they have always been on the wrong side of history. I think there are always some people who follow the leader no matter what (even at the expense of fellow citizens), admire a father figure and favor authoritarian rule. They account for at least 25% of the population. This is not unique in the US. I see the same pattern around the world. It's up to the rest of the people to inform and educate each other and vote and hope for the best.

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:40 pm ]
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A police officer in Louisiana, regarding AOC: “This vile idiot needs a round. And not the ones she used to serve.” Yep that’s healthy. Death threats on the internet are nothing new, we all get them, but when a cop says it, someone who could do it and get away with it, it becomes a bit more disturbing.

Author:	Groucho [ Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:40 pm ]
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Fortunately, the cop was fired, as he should have been. This just shows how low political discourse has been dragged to in America. It's one thing to disagree with someone's politics, but it's quite another to say someone should be killed because they have a different viewpoint than you do.

Author:	Mister Ecks [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:42 am ]
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It's funny how these cretins watch their lord and savior, Trump, say and do what he wants with zero repercussions, so they say and do what they want and... wow, there are repercussions in real life! Then their old fallback is "Liberal snowflakes are against free speech!" Yeah, that's it.

Author:	nghtvsn [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:28 pm ]
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hubbada hubbada “Can you repeat the question...” Bravo presenting a senile old man who at times was on the verge of saying admiral stockdales famous line. Had no clue who hired his fake staff of clintonistas. No idea who wrote his statement. Couldn’t or wouldn’t answer questions that had answers in his own fake report that I’m positive he never read unless his nurse had read it to him. This was a stupendous performance for the ages. As far as fake republicans go, just let jimmy Jordan ask all the questions. He can put sentences together and be animated while doing it.

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Author:	zwackerm [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:24 am ]
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Lol saying someone “needs a round” not a death threat. If it’s funny watching people “bend over backwards” to defend trump, it’s also funny watching people bend over backwards to take everything he does and says as offensive and read into every detail to such a degree.

Author:	stuffp [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:37 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote: Lol saying someone “needs a round” not a death threat. That's BS...it's different though if a person says it as a joke. But police officer is a position where such a joke is not appropriate.

Author:	Jiffy [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:08 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote: Lol saying someone “needs a round” not a death threat. If it’s funny watching people “bend over backwards” to defend trump, it’s also funny watching people bend over backwards to take everything he does and says as offensive and read into every detail to such a degree. He literally said "This vile idiot needs a round...and I don’t mean the kind she used to serve.” Wtf do you think he meant?

Author:	Chippy [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:50 am ]
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A fake report that totally exonerated trump, and also, was totally fake and corrupt.

Author:	zwackerm [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:54 am ]
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stuffp wrote: zwackerm wrote: Lol saying someone “needs a round” not a death threat. That's BS...it's different though if a person says it as a joke. But police officer is a position where such a joke is not appropriate. Doesn’t that just mean they deserve a clock in the head? Usually said in the context of when you think someone is acting unintelligent? Or did they mean a round of bullets? Lol I forgot that was a term. But even that is a stretch considering he literally compares it to a round of drinks it is pretty clear he was trying to be clever and not actually threaten to shoot her.

Author:	Chippy [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:17 am ]
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You've got to be a brain genius to think "needs a round" means "hitting her in the head". Good lord.

Author:	Groucho [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:34 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote: Lol saying someone “needs a round” not a death threat. If it’s funny watching people “bend over backwards” to defend trump, it’s also funny watching people bend over backwards to take everything he does and says as offensive and read into every detail to such a degree. Wow, thanks for proving my point! Does your back hurt now?

Author:	zwackerm [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:37 pm ]
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Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: Lol saying someone “needs a round” not a death threat. If it’s funny watching people “bend over backwards” to defend trump, it’s also funny watching people bend over backwards to take everything he does and says as offensive and read into every detail to such a degree. Wow, thanks for proving my point! Does your back hurt now? Nope it really wasn’t difficult at all. I now understand that it was technically a joke about her getting shot, but the offense people are taking is 100% based off their anti Trump bias rather than actual offense.

Author:	Chippy [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:46 pm ]
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A joke about her getting shot? What does a "joke" about a cop shooting a congresswoman have to do with... anti-trump bias? Do you typically not care when a cop threatens a government employee with death?

Author:	zwackerm [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm ]
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Chippy wrote: A joke about her getting shot? What does a "joke" about a cop shooting a congresswoman have to do with... anti-trump bias? Do you typically not care when a cop threatens a government employee with death? It clearly wasn’t serious.