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 The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fascism 
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Pence has done the following:

    Passed laws for "conversion therapy"
    Fought for a law to jail anyone who performed a gay marriage
    Fought for a law to jail anyone who applied for a marriage license to someone of the same sex
    Said gays were causing the downfall of society
    Said that sex outside of marriage should be illegal
    Opposed laws that would make it illegal to discriminate against LGBT
    Fought for abstinence programs
    Fought Obama's federal rules about discrimination
    Fought against funding for AIDS
    Tried to get Trump to issue an executive order declaring premarital sex illegal

He wants sex outside of marriage to be illegal; he doesn't believe gays should get married; therefore he believes gay sex should be illegal.

He is an evil man.


I actually didn't read this post whoops.

I Knew about the AIDS thing. What are the dates on all of these things? Are they since Trumps run? A lot of Christians are fine with homosexuality nowadays as long as they don't have to participate.


Most of these are when he was governor of Indiana, admittedly. No reason to assume his position has changed.


Well I would wait to bring out the panic wagon when he tries something.


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Well I would wait to bring out the panic wagon when he tries something.


I know; I just brought him up because earlier in this thread there was discussion about the politician who wanted to make straight sex illegal to make a point, and someone asked for an example of a politician trying to make gay sex illegal.

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Pence has done the following:

    Passed laws for "conversion therapy"

He is an evil man.

Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender?


What the FUCK does this have to do with the other?

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Pence has done the following:

    Passed laws for "conversion therapy"

He is an evil man.

Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender?


What the FUCK does this have to do with the other?

I see chippy just couldn't resist. :hahaha:


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Chippy the last few months reading this thread

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Glad to see Chippy posting again.


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Maybe if I became a Democrat he'd stay away.


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Knew it wouldn't last long. He'll be back. One post here, another post there, and before you know it he's back posting like Trump on Twitter.

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Yeah, you don't have to come out and say the words "I DON'T WANT GAY SEX TO BE A THING!" in order for people to know what you believe.

Although there's always a chance it's an American Beauty situation for Pence.

There's a difference between disapproving of gay sex personally and wanting it to be illegal. I don't personally like the idea but I know it's not my business. I'm sure Pence disapproves of gay sex but he's shown no signs of wanting to outlaw it.


Except, of course, all the examples I already gave that you are ignoring.


I don't believe any of your examples. Citation to legitimate news source saying Mile Pence wants to throw gay people in jail for wanting to be married. Pics or I didn't happen.


NY Times reliable enough for you?

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt ... 1afaa.html


I can't read without doing survey shit and it doesn't look like the NY Times but I am not saying that the North West Indiana Times (NWITimes?) Is not legit.


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Chippy wrote:
Caius wrote:
Groucho wrote:
Pence has done the following:

    Passed laws for "conversion therapy"

He is an evil man.

Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender?


What the FUCK does this have to do with the other?

Seems clear. But you know that.


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I can't read without doing survey shit and it doesn't look like the NY Times but I am not saying that the North West Indiana Times (NWITimes?) Is not legit.


Doh! That's embarrassing. I clicked on NY Times and that came up and I posted it by mistake.

Snopes dealt with this: http://www.snopes.com/mike-pence-marriage-licenses/

Even if it did not go as far as originally claimed, the fact remains that Pence has pretty much done everything in his power to discriminate against gays at every possibility. (Remember the whole "religious freedom act" that allowed pizza parlors to discriminate? That was his.) Here's an actual, real NY Times article listing most of the terrible things he's done:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/us/p ... roups.html

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Post Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote:
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Caius wrote:
Groucho wrote:
Pence has done the following:

    Passed laws for "conversion therapy"

He is an evil man.

Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender?


What the FUCK does this have to do with the other?

Seems clear. But you know that.


No, it isn't. It's a distraction. but you know that.

The issues involving discrimination against gay people have NOTHING to do with the rights of juveniles and parents concerning their own bodies.

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Juveniles don't have The same rights as legal adults.

This is a more interesting topic than Pence's scandalous past. I'm thinking only adults should be allowed to transition surgically, due to the brain still developing, but there's no reason teens and kids shouldn't be able to experiment with gender roles.


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I could just imagine zwackerm picking apart every detail of Austin Powers.

And I could see you making some abstruse point over the course of six paragraphs that leaves people on all sides confused about the thrust of your original argument.


Only if they ask for it and it's necessary for an adequate reply.

Thanks for telling we what I know, that politics is generally lazy.

I had a rude reply, but I'll just say your attack here is worthless and meaningless to me. I care little if I convince you of anything (which would be a pretty pointless effort anyway).


Politics is generally lazy, similar to your initial attacking post.


Why does comedy need to be perfectly accurate? It doesn't really matter whether the Muslim travel ban or the military transgender ban are mixed in the joke because they derive from similar motivations and causes.


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Why does comedy need to be perfectly accurate? It doesn't really matter whether the Muslim travel ban or the military transgender ban are mixed in the joke because they derive from similar motivations and causes.

Ah, ok.


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Apparently Trump is willing to do a DACA deal without a border deal. God do I love it when he stabs all the populist rubes in the back--who will now side with his new position.


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American Institute in Croatia is having a rather weird promo campaign for their language courses :funny:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 8432673085


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When Trump refers to Kim Jong-Un as Rocket Man, part of me gets why his base love him so much. That slap in the face of everything we all think of as "presidential". It's completely dangerous and continues to serve as proof of why everyone thinks of America as a laughing stock, but it's nevertheless interesting.

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Wait, is Rocket Man a hero or a villain in Trump's extended universe? I am confused. President Moon sure sounds like an evil name.


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everyone thinks of America as a laughing stock

That started long before Trump.


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Every country is a laughing stock depending on where you are from.

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Every country is a laughing stock depending on where you are from.


But America is always in the top two. ;)

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People like to laugh at America till they come here for their surgeries.


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People like to laugh at America till they come here for their surgeries.


Those are reserved for the very wealthy only.

Speaking of health care and stuff, America ranks lowest in life expectancy compared to the rest of the industrialized countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy#List_by_the_United_Nations.2C_for_2010.E2.80.932015

Maybe useful to understand why this is.


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