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 The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fascism 
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The Doc is right

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Georgia Republicans removed a break on jet fuel from their tax cuts in an effort to punish Delta for daring to speak out against the NRA. I get they only champions of free speech during election season. Or when its not their feelings being hurt. :funny:


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Hillary would have been better than Trump on free trade. Trump channeling Bernie Sanders this week with his idiotic steel tariffs. The man is easily the least intelligent president we have ever had.


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Also he is supporting gun control now

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He won't tomorrow, but will Sunday and maybe Monday.

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Maybe Mondays!

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This Sam Nunberg is pretty outrageous. :lol:

I don't know if he's just trying to get his 15 minutes of fame, or if he's legit throwing everyone under the bus, including himself... maybe both. He kinda seems unhinged, as well, with his gloating of being the "first person to do this".

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This thread title is ridiculous. If Trump were really a fascist, it would be illegal to have this thread in the first place.


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It is stupid. It is projecting the OP's view onto everyone else. There really is no need for it. Just "The Trump Era" would be sufficient. If he is such a fuck-up, it will be clear to people. It doesn't need to be forced down our throats with a super-long, ugly title.


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This thread title is ridiculous. If Trump were really a fascist, it would be illegal to have this thread in the first place.


Because that’s how checks and balances work.

Then again, it might cost you $9.99 in the near future to even view this thread so we’re not exactly far off.

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Jmart wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
This thread title is ridiculous. If Trump were really a fascist, it would be illegal to have this thread in the first place.


Because that’s how checks and balances work.

Then again, it might cost you $9.99 in the near future to even view this thread so we’re not exactly far off.


Heh, remember when everyone was going to die due to ending net neutrality? There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Oh, and Trump is not a libertarian in any sense of the word.


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Caius wrote:
Jmart wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
This thread title is ridiculous. If Trump were really a fascist, it would be illegal to have this thread in the first place.


Because that’s how checks and balances work.

Then again, it might cost you $9.99 in the near future to even view this thread so we’re not exactly far off.


Heh, remember when everyone was going to die due to ending net neutrality? There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Oh, and Trump is not a libertarian in any sense of the word.


I’m starting to agree with you Caius, his intial move of selecting people to run components of the government that those selected people were actively against reeked of their internal destruction, turning away from federalism thus a component of libertarianism. However, his last few months have had little to no remnense of libertarianism.

Also the use of the term fascism is not meant to be an insult, but rather a description of his political leanings. Very few these days understand exactly what fascism is, his recent proposal for a trade war and his push for infrastructure overhaul are right in line with a Third Alternative economic policy. Kicking Bannon off helps him shed this label a little as Bannon was the champion of Economic Nationalism.

Obviously the Facist label is only light, as we are still in a liberal democracy, thus the pairing with the polar opposite viewpoints of libertarianism and thus the use of the word awkward.

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I can buy the fascist angle although it is not purposeful from Trump as he lacks the ability to think deeply about such things. He seems to believe in an element of autarchy but, again, lacks complex reasoning skills.


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The possibility of a trade war is a horrible idea. Not sure what he is thinking. He could tank the economy with these tariffs.


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Is he truly a US president if he doesn't start at least one war?


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Algren wrote:
Is he truly a US president if he doesn't start at least one war?


I think George Jr. is the only one to start a war.

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Thegun wrote:
Algren wrote:
Is he truly a US president if he doesn't start at least one war?


I think George Jr. is the only one to start a war.

You mean recently right? Bush Sr. started one too if you go back 30 years.


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Thegun wrote:
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Is he truly a US president if he doesn't start at least one war?


I think George Jr. is the only one to start a war.

:funny: brainwashed Yank


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Didn't Obama start bombing Libya (he had NATO overthrow it), Somalia, Yemen, and Syria?
Bush has been mentioned.
Clinton Bosnia and Kosovo.

Isn't Jedi a history major or something? Thegun has a built in excuse so I forgive him.


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Yup. I'm waiting for Trump to start a real war, so he can get a Nobel peace prize like Obama did.

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Caius wrote:
Didn't Obama start bombing Libya (he had NATO overthrow it), Somalia, Yemen, and Syria?
Bush has been mentioned.
Clinton Bosnia and Kosovo.

Isn't Jedi a history major or something? Thegun has a built in excuse so I forgive him.


Although technically none of them are wars since the President can't declare a war. We didn't do anything in Libya except be in the back while France and NATO did most of the military action. We didn't send ground troops in any war since Iraq. I guess it depends on how you classify a war. Yes I was a history major but my focus was never the 20th century. I focused on the American Revolution and now talk about Lincoln's death all day.


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Jedi Master Carr wrote:
Caius wrote:
Didn't Obama start bombing Libya (he had NATO overthrow it), Somalia, Yemen, and Syria?
Bush has been mentioned.
Clinton Bosnia and Kosovo.

Isn't Jedi a history major or something? Thegun has a built in excuse so I forgive him.


Although technically none of them are wars since the President can't declare a war. We didn't do anything in Libya except be in the back while France and NATO did most of the military action. We didn't send ground troops in any war since Iraq. I guess it depends on how you classify a war. Yes I was a history major but my focus was never the 20th century. I focused on the American Revolution and now talk about Lincoln's death all day.


Well I can tell you how I don't solely classify a war. A declaration that the U.S. is at "War" using the word "War" as used by Congress. Otherwise Iraq and Vietnam and Afghanistan were not "wars." Obama used the AUMF from 9/11 to put troops back on the ground in places throughout the Middle East.

And there are troops in Syria right now and have been for a while, since before Trump. Example: U.S. kicking the shit out of filthy Russian commies https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/view/articles/2018-02-16/russia-attacked-u-s-troops-in-syria

And although France and the U.K., via NATO, led the bombing in Libya, the U.S. participated too.


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What level of military involvement constitutes a war?

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What level of military involvement constitutes a war?

Unclear but I would think soldiers occupying a country and sustained air strikes constitutes one although some troops are not occupying but are working within (Niger, for example).

Syria
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Then the US is st a constant state of war?

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