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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20340 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
Chippy wrote: So wouldn't a heterosexual relationship in a kids movie do the same to a homosexual child? Probably. That's why there are very few out of the closet gay children.
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Fri May 13, 2016 7:59 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20340 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
I do support gays, for the record. I have gay friends. I don't mean to hate. People have the right to do what they want, I won't hold them to a standard.
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Fri May 13, 2016 11:37 pm |
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tina_als_girl
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 3:43 pm Posts: 2252 Location: Wellsville, MO
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
zwackerm wrote: I'm not saying they would become gay. Because homosexuals are without a shadow of a doubt born that way. 100% proven.
Kids in Frozen's target audience are too young to be thinking about a sexual orientation anyway. There is a reason people don't come out of the closet sometimes for a long time. It can be because of fear of ridicule, but it can also be they are not sure what they are for sure. By this logic, kids movies shouldn't have heterosexual pairings either, like all the Disney Princess movies that have been made, minus Brave. If a f/f or m/m kiss would make a kid think about sexual orientation, then so too would a f/m kiss. My niece was acting out kisses with her Disney Princess figures at age 3-4. Her first Disney Princess movie was Princess and the Frog, and she was constantly having her Tiana and Naveen figures kissing.
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Sat May 14, 2016 7:13 am |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28292 Location: ... siiiigh...
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
Didn't Disney just have a black heroine in one of their cartoons less than ten years ago? Yeah, they aren't going to be progressive enough for this one just yet.
I do believe this would be a great decision though. I really think that a lot of issues felt by the LGBT community would dry up if they were more properly and prominently represented in media. Assholes will always be assholes, but assholes feel empowered to bully groups of people because they know they can get away with it as virtually everything dictates they're in the majority, even if they're not. Just look at film and television. Gay characters are so rarely the lead roles, especially in mainstream film. It's predominantly in supporting roles. And I don't believe showing two men or two women kissing is as progressive as people want it to be. All it does is say "Woo, victory for us! Take that, racist homophobic sexist assholes!". There should be more relationships developed to show that, hey, if two people love each other, why does it matter if they're both dudes or both chicks?
I hate when someone tries to speak for a group of people when they aren't in that group, so I'll shut up. But it was either I post that or I attack zwackerm with everyone else.
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Sat May 14, 2016 9:51 am |
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Mau
100% That Bitch
Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:42 pm Posts: 16897 Location: Monterrey, Mexico
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
Oh my god. zwackerm
I guess you're one of the ppl voting for Trump.
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Sat May 14, 2016 10:37 am |
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Mau
100% That Bitch
Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:42 pm Posts: 16897 Location: Monterrey, Mexico
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
It makes me deeply sad the USA has people like zwackerm who suffer clearly from brain damage cuz no one can really be this stupid on his own.
You don't get to use the Ï have gay friends so I'm not homophobic" card when you are rambling pure homophobic shit. Whenever you wish to speak on any topic maybe you should do a little research, and not on pages like Churchrulezz.com. I will not try to teach you how it really is because your mind is as closed as a straight guy's asshole.
Serously I don't even care at these stupid things but you make my head hurt.
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Sat May 14, 2016 10:46 am |
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18870 Location: San Diego
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
It would be hilarious to see the uproar among ignorant parents and such but it's just not gonna happen with something so popular.
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Sat May 14, 2016 3:23 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21632 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
zwackerm wrote: I'm not saying they would become gay. Because homosexuals are without a shadow of a doubt born that way. 100% proven.
Kids in Frozen's target audience are too young to be thinking about a sexual orientation anyway. You are easily KJs switch hitter. Also that is a theory that can never be proven., let alone 100%. It is simply the accepted scientific/ medical belief at this time. Also Elsa's gay?
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Sat May 14, 2016 4:48 pm |
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Magic Mike
Wallflower
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
Dr. Lecter wrote: zwackerm wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: zwackerm wrote: All we need is LGBt agenda in kids movies. It's entertainment, we don't need to force homosexuality on a character that hasn't been established that way,
Don't worry, I'm sure in the future there will be tons of gay characters in kids movies. Has hetereosexuality been established for Elsa? 94% of people are straight. If she was gay, it should have been mentioned in the first movie. Plus, Elsa being gay could confuse kids into thinking they are gay too. You are a rare breed of stupid, Billy. Or brainwashed by too much churchgoing. You do not get confused into being gay, you dimwit. I think it is unfortunate that we live in a society, in which something like #GiveElsaaGirlfriend even needs to be a thing. In a perfect society, it is simply would not matter. It should not matter. It's just people, it doesn't matter who they are in love with. It's not like giving her a girlfriend (which will not happen, it's Disney Animation, please) means kids will be exposed to scenes or rampant scissoring. It would just be the same harmless embrase and maybe one quick kiss as usual. So why does it matter whom she kisses? Some reactions to these topic make it seem like people are afraid that making Elsa lesbian is akin to showing kids porn. I think they're just going to have to keep Elsa single. I feel like this character is a lesbian but obviously they can't give the character a girlfriend because they would lose a bunch of money. But it would feel kind of forced to give her a male love interest. Just make her asexual and not interested in any sex.
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:30 pm |
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Magic Mike
Wallflower
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
zwackerm wrote: Kids in Frozen's target audience are too young to be thinking about a sexual orientation anyway. But you have no problem with there being heterosexual relationships in these films. Anna is pretty boy crazy. Wouldn't this make kids think about this stuff? You act like kids thinking they could be gay is such a horrible thing. If they aren't eventually they will figure that out. It's not going to turn them gay. It doesn't work that way. Honestly it's surprising someone young like zwackerm would be THAT clueless about this. I would expect it from an older generation.
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:38 pm |
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Mau
100% That Bitch
Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:42 pm Posts: 16897 Location: Monterrey, Mexico
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
Thankfully Zawckerm is one of a kind....
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:27 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
He's afraid they'll have Elsa 69'ing with another girl in the sequel.
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:26 am |
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Magic Mike
Wallflower
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
It would be an animated Blue Is The Warmest Color.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:18 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 37974
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
A lot of rumours this is going down. I think casting Evan Rachel Wood is the tell.
Disney should do it because it's about the big picture for them. The short term dollars are there no matter what. But creating respect for their brand is important in the long run.
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21632 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Re: #GiveElsaaGirlfriend
I heard the rumor that Elsa came out as a cartoon 5 years ago. I was shocked. She looked so real.
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