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 WoKJ Needs A New Owner 
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Yeah I would wager most people don't really care about an active main site, we just want the forums to stay alive.


Yes, yes, but you still take the whole package, which does entail maintenance and costs.


Oh. Well, the main site hasn't been updated in three years, it looks like. And it does look like people are willing to contribute financially.


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Well for the main page, it looks like a couple reviews were highlighted. Someone just take one of David's reviews and then another user's review for a couple films stick'em up there and add a graphic. Rotate the 2nd user but keep David's. Idk about the other two slots or just redesign that front page completely. Just tossing out randomness.

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Uh oh. What about those of us who have other sites hosted with you?

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Awesome news, Karl. Congrats!

Hopefully someone is willing to keep the forum going :( . A lot of history here.


Mon May 18, 2015 12:05 pm
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Worst case, no owner steps forward, I'll create a backup before shutting it down, and very well could re-launch all that information at some point in the future.

Best case, a new owner or owners step forward.

As to Algren's question about how much work is required ... the answer is ... it depends. Back when WoKJ was bumping, the forum couldn't exist on a shared hosting environment, not enough power and it would crawl. We went out and got a dedicated server, which costs more (I believe $840 last year). WoKJ makes a good chunk of that on ad-revenue ($400-$700, it varys), and then I host other people's sites on the server to make up the difference. A lot of the time comes from managing those other sites, fielding questions, sending out bills, etc. The other side is what happens when the server crashes? I feel a responsibility to act ASAP to get it back up and running, and that's a responsibility I would like to shed. You'd be surprised how much of a PITA repairing crashed tables can be when they store millions of posts.

I just can't commit to it anymore. The needs here are a) someone technically capable of managing the site (hosting, backups, migration to new hosts, etc) and b) the money to pay the bill (should mostly come from the ads, someone just needs to setup a new Google adsense account in their name).

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What deadline are we talking about here?

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There isn't a formal one at the moment. It's something I'd like to off-load over the coming months if possible, by the end of July would be ideal.

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I can cover the bill and welcome anybody who wishes to join, so no worries there. As far as experience with servers...:/ anybody??

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LOL maybe we can recruit someone to help with the tech stuff.


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Guys! There's a talent show happening and the grand prize is exactly what we need to keep the site going! Now what should we do to win!?


But in all seriousness, I'll die if the site goes away.

And congrats Karl!

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Congrats Karil as well!

I can contribute some to the bill as well if needed, but don't have any experience running a site.


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LOL maybe we can recruit someone to help with the tech stuff.

We must! This place can't close :tears:

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Rev wrote:
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LOL maybe we can recruit someone to help with the tech stuff.

We must! This place can't close :tears:


I'm sure it will get sorted out. When there's a will...


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Magnus is Middle Eastern, they're born knowing IT shit.

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Listen to Magnus he doesn't know his shit.

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There isn't a formal one at the moment. It's something I'd like to off-load over the coming months if possible, by the end of July would be ideal.


Okay, that gives enough time to figure out a solution.

As I said, I'd like to be one of the people to take over. I do know how to manage a site and I think even those of you here who are not particularly fond of me, know that I am dedicated to WOKJ. I do however lack an abundance of time and, more importantly, technical skills.

Also, I've been so caught up in thinking about this that I'm late to the party with this, but.... congrats, Karl! :)

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Congrats Karl!

And I know how you feel. Similar scenario happened to me when my first baby was born a couple of years ago. I don't want to make commitment that I can't keep, especially with another child on the way, but I definitely want to help to keep the forums here alive given all the friendships, knowledge and intelligence we've built.


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Eagle wrote:
The time has come for me to part with WoKJ. The obvious question is why, so let me try and explain:

Late last year I had my first child, a daughter, who is nearing 5 months old. Just a month ago, I was promoted at work, to an exciting but demanding position. The baby, and the job, require my full attention, and I want to give it to them.

I've been lucky enough to operate WoKJ for over a decade now, and in doing so have managed a dedicated server where the site (and other properties I own / host) live. I frankly haven't been able to do much of anything in this avenue since I launched Box Office Seer, and while the time spent managing it all isn't much, it's time I need to have back.

So, the server will be shut off. The sites shut down. The lights turned low. Unless of course someone else want's to pick up the torch and move the site in whatever direction they may fancy. The site does generate some revenue via forum ads, enough that a new owner may conceivably break even by moving to some type of non-dedicated environment. Or they're welcome to keep my dedicated server, add their own sites, maybe even keep some of the clients I have, who knows!

In any event, if you're interested in taking on such responsibilities, please contact me at kjtocool at gmail and we can discuss further. If you have questions for me, please post them here and I'll be happy to address.


Congrats to you and your first child! Also, congrats on your promotion. There is a possibility I might want to be one of the owners. I'm not sure yet but it is something I'm interested in. I will send you my e-mail address.


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Eagle wrote:
The time has come for me to part with WoKJ. The obvious question is why, so let me try and explain:

Late last year I had my first child, a daughter, who is nearing 5 months old. Just a month ago, I was promoted at work, to an exciting but demanding position. The baby, and the job, require my full attention, and I want to give it to them.

I've been lucky enough to operate WoKJ for over a decade now, and in doing so have managed a dedicated server where the site (and other properties I own / host) live. I frankly haven't been able to do much of anything in this avenue since I launched Box Office Seer, and while the time spent managing it all isn't much, it's time I need to have back.

So, the server will be shut off. The sites shut down. The lights turned low. Unless of course someone else want's to pick up the torch and move the site in whatever direction they may fancy. The site does generate some revenue via forum ads, enough that a new owner may conceivably break even by moving to some type of non-dedicated environment. Or they're welcome to keep my dedicated server, add their own sites, maybe even keep some of the clients I have, who knows!

In any event, if you're interested in taking on such responsibilities, please contact me at kjtocool at gmail and we can discuss further. If you have questions for me, please post them here and I'll be happy to address.


Congrats to you and your first child! Also, congrats on your promotion. There is a possibility I might want to be one of the owners. I'm not sure yet but it is something I'm interested in. I will send you my e-mail address.


OMG bl1222 would be a perfect owner! He/she has my vote.


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Eagle wrote:
The time has come for me to part with WoKJ. The obvious question is why, so let me try and explain:

Late last year I had my first child, a daughter, who is nearing 5 months old. Just a month ago, I was promoted at work, to an exciting but demanding position. The baby, and the job, require my full attention, and I want to give it to them.

I've been lucky enough to operate WoKJ for over a decade now, and in doing so have managed a dedicated server where the site (and other properties I own / host) live. I frankly haven't been able to do much of anything in this avenue since I launched Box Office Seer, and while the time spent managing it all isn't much, it's time I need to have back.

So, the server will be shut off. The sites shut down. The lights turned low. Unless of course someone else want's to pick up the torch and move the site in whatever direction they may fancy. The site does generate some revenue via forum ads, enough that a new owner may conceivably break even by moving to some type of non-dedicated environment. Or they're welcome to keep my dedicated server, add their own sites, maybe even keep some of the clients I have, who knows!

In any event, if you're interested in taking on such responsibilities, please contact me at kjtocool at gmail and we can discuss further. If you have questions for me, please post them here and I'll be happy to address.


Congrats to you and your first child! Also, congrats on your promotion. There is a possibility I might want to be one of the owners. I'm not sure yet but it is something I'm interested in. I will send you my e-mail address.


OMG bl1222 would be a perfect owner! He/she has my vote.


Thanks zwackerm. I am actually in my internship for Information Technology (I do my internship from home) this summer. I'm trying to help out my family friend's website look better. I have some experience with technical skills but not excellent.


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Eagle wrote:
As to Algren's question about how much work is required ... the answer is ... it depends. Back when WoKJ was bumping, the forum couldn't exist on a shared hosting environment, not enough power and it would crawl. We went out and got a dedicated server, which costs more (I believe $840 last year). WoKJ makes a good chunk of that on ad-revenue ($400-$700, it varys), and then I host other people's sites on the server to make up the difference. A lot of the time comes from managing those other sites, fielding questions, sending out bills, etc. The other side is what happens when the server crashes? I feel a responsibility to act ASAP to get it back up and running, and that's a responsibility I would like to shed. You'd be surprised how much of a PITA repairing crashed tables can be when they store millions of posts.

I see. Thanks for the response. Seems like quite a bit of work with the site just "being there".

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Algren wrote:
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As to Algren's question about how much work is required ... the answer is ... it depends. Back when WoKJ was bumping, the forum couldn't exist on a shared hosting environment, not enough power and it would crawl. We went out and got a dedicated server, which costs more (I believe $840 last year). WoKJ makes a good chunk of that on ad-revenue ($400-$700, it varys), and then I host other people's sites on the server to make up the difference. A lot of the time comes from managing those other sites, fielding questions, sending out bills, etc. The other side is what happens when the server crashes? I feel a responsibility to act ASAP to get it back up and running, and that's a responsibility I would like to shed. You'd be surprised how much of a PITA repairing crashed tables can be when they store millions of posts.

I see. Thanks for the response. Seems like quite a bit of work with the site just "being there".


That's exactly what I meant too. I mean I know from my website, that shit just happens constantly and sometimes for no reason and I am grateful as hell for having a readily available and pretty skilled tech guy to fix it. But seriously, not more than a few months pass until some new shit happens out of nowhere.

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I have an IT background and have a little bit of experience with websites but not to the degree of fully supporting it. Let me look into what Karl mentioned about crashes and back-ups (I am ok with those stuffs but to a small degree) though I will still not be available all time so I can help but can't be relied on a the sole tech person.


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bring back loyalfromlondon and arsibaba

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Let's have another ill-conceived admin election.


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