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 The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fascism 
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Under new government directives, children as young as 1 year old are now being taken away from their parents when they arrive at the border seeking asylum together. Separating young children from parents for no reasons...

Animals may have more empathy than those who make these policies.


Why are you attacking President Obama? This is a Trump thread.


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That's not an Obama policy, you fool.

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Before you even ask, yes, Obama should've ended ICE. They suck. They have sucked.

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i.hope wrote:
Under new government directives, children as young as 1 year old are now being taken away from their parents when they arrive at the border seeking asylum together. Separating young children from parents for no reasons...

Animals may have more empathy than those who make these policies.


Why are you attacking President Obama? This is a Trump thread.


You've been Trump'ed. It is a new policy announced in May (this month).



https://www.factcheck.org/2018/05/trump-blames-own-border-policy-on-democrats/


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Post Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
How was I "Trumped"? I am talking about this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2018/05/27/the-u-s-lost-track-of-1500-immigrant-children-last-year-heres-why-people-are-outraged-now/

I could care less about immigration or the dumb wall or any of that. I want more immigration and don't like families being separated.


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I don't understand what you think you're saying? ICE has always sucked. Under Obama, even! The act of separating families is a new Trump policy, on top of the idiotic previous ICE policies.

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How was I "Trumped"? I am talking about this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2018/05/27/the-u-s-lost-track-of-1500-immigrant-children-last-year-heres-why-people-are-outraged-now/

I could care less about immigration or the dumb wall or any of that. I want more immigration and don't like families being separated.


I was talking about "A", then you quoted my post and talked about "B", which had nothing to do with "A".

I specifically mentioned in my post that parents and children are being separated when they arrive at the border under the new policy ("Zero Tolerance").

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In the past, people caught crossing the border illegally were simply returned to Mexico after pleading guilty and being briefly detailed. Under the new policy of "zero tolerance," Sessions said the goal is for "100 percent" of all illegal border crossers to be referred by DHS to federal prosecutors and charged with "improper entry by an alien," facing up to six months in prison. Families who are caught will be separated, with children sent to juvenile facilities.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/07/609225537/sessions-says-zero-tolerance-for-illegal-border-crossers-vows-to-divide-families

Before the Trump administration, immigrants entering illegally as families were rarely prosecuted, said Sarah Pierce, an associate policy analyst of the U.S. Immigration Program at the Migration Policy Institute. Instead, immigrants were held in family detention centers until they were sent to appear before an immigration court or deported.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/may/29/donald-trump/trump-blames-democrat-own-policy-separating-family/


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Post Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
So Kim Kardashian is visiting the White House to discuss prison reform. :rofl:


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This clown is now saying he regrets hiring Jeff Sessions.

Can he just fucking resign already?

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So Kim Kardashian is visiting the White House to discuss prison reform. :rofl:


So the White House will have an obnoxious and overexposed fake tabloid trash reality TV celebrity that was born with a silver spoon in their mouth and has absolutely zero actual skills and no real reason for being famous.

And also Kim Kardashian.

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That's lame Bill Maher level humour right there. He makes that type of joke at least three times per monologue.


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Looks like Tarriffs are coming at our most loyal trading partners. Ironically Trump is more of an enemy to the free market than most Democrats

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A new Harvard study estimates that nearly 5,000 people died in Puerto Rico due to Hurricane Maria - a much larger number than the official government death toll of 64.


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Depends on how one defines cause here. I am sure the Feds will only define a death caused by the hurricane if it occurred tmdurung the actual storm, whereas the Harvard study will include any deaths caused by the consequences of the storm. The Feds will then argue that any deaths due to consequences are more so to blame if the island’s weak infrastructure and it is inconsequential that these were exposed due to a hurricane.

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The official count, in general, should include "indirect" deaths. Hurricane Katrina's toll included both "direct" and "indirect" deaths. This makes Puerto Rico's low count look fishy.

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CNN surveyed funeral homes after the storm and tallied 499 hurricane-related deaths. The New York Times compared official death records from September and October 2017 and identified more than 1,000 excess deaths, compared with the average for 2015 and 2016. Alexis Santos, a researcher at Penn State University, and a colleague, used death certificates to come up with a similar estimate.

The government of Puerto Rico commissioned researchers from George Washington University's Milken Institute School of Public Health to estimate excess deaths. Results of that study have been delayed and are due out this summer.


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/05/29/615120123/study-puts-puerto-rico-death-toll-at-5-000-from-hurricane-maria-in-2017

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/health/hurricane-maria-uncounted-deaths-invs/index.html


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Post Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Trump's premature characterization of the impact of Hurricane Maria (comments like "proud of the low number of deaths" and "avoiding a real catastrophe like Katrina") was at the very least not helpful.

His constant emphasis on the "good" news (excellent rescue job!) and downplaying of the severity of the damage were disingenuous.

The media's focus on Trump's comments instead of spending more time reporting on the victims and the damages was substandard journalism.


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So we all agree the right would be savaging Obama if he treated Kim the way Trump is, right? And I put myself on the right, but not a Trump lickspittle.


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Um he is by the never trump bots.

But we can also AGREE that if Obama had accomplished this signature signing the mentally ill left would be salivating at Obama getting a SECOND Noble Peace Prize.

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Both sides are fickle and mentally retarded. Move on.


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"The right" is the euphemism for "principles-free cheerleading propagandists".



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The left would be treating Obama as a deity if bridged the gap with NK

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The left would be treating Obama as a deity if bridged the gap with NK


Except Trump isn't "bridging the gap" he's giving aid to North Korea while alienating South Korea and the rest of our allies.

This is like saying, "Well, yes, he purposely burned down the house but look! He saved a puppy."

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What gap did he bridge? If Obama did this exact same thing, we'd call him an idiot. Because literally nothing was accomplished, besides a photo op.

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The G7 photo, which most of you have probably already seen, really sums up recent events. No captions needed.

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Sarah H Sanders essentially just said that they're separating immigrant families on purpose until "democrats fix immigration laws".

So... they're holding children hostage. In camps.

But sure, Trump isn't a fascist.

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