The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fascism
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
i.hope wrote:
Under new government directives, children as young as 1 year old are now being taken away from their parents when they arrive at the border seeking asylum together. Separating young children from parents for no reasons...
Animals may have more empathy than those who make these policies.
Why are you attacking President Obama? This is a Trump thread.
Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Before you even ask, yes, Obama should've ended ICE. They suck. They have sucked.
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shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element
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chippy is correct
Tue May 29, 2018 11:26 am
i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 5313
Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote:
i.hope wrote:
Under new government directives, children as young as 1 year old are now being taken away from their parents when they arrive at the border seeking asylum together. Separating young children from parents for no reasons...
Animals may have more empathy than those who make these policies.
Why are you attacking President Obama? This is a Trump thread.
You've been Trump'ed. It is a new policy announced in May (this month).
Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I don't understand what you think you're saying? ICE has always sucked. Under Obama, even! The act of separating families is a new Trump policy, on top of the idiotic previous ICE policies.
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trixster wrote:
shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element
trixster wrote:
chippy is correct
Tue May 29, 2018 4:48 pm
i.hope
Defeats all expectations
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I could care less about immigration or the dumb wall or any of that. I want more immigration and don't like families being separated.
I was talking about "A", then you quoted my post and talked about "B", which had nothing to do with "A".
I specifically mentioned in my post that parents and children are being separated when they arrive at the border under the new policy ("Zero Tolerance").
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In the past, people caught crossing the border illegally were simply returned to Mexico after pleading guilty and being briefly detailed. Under the new policy of "zero tolerance," Sessions said the goal is for "100 percent" of all illegal border crossers to be referred by DHS to federal prosecutors and charged with "improper entry by an alien," facing up to six months in prison. Families who are caught will be separated, with children sent to juvenile facilities.
Before the Trump administration, immigrants entering illegally as families were rarely prosecuted, said Sarah Pierce, an associate policy analyst of the U.S. Immigration Program at the Migration Policy Institute. Instead, immigrants were held in family detention centers until they were sent to appear before an immigration court or deported.
Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
This clown is now saying he regrets hiring Jeff Sessions.
Can he just fucking resign already?
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shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element
trixster wrote:
chippy is correct
Wed May 30, 2018 1:57 pm
Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 11875 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Algren wrote:
So Kim Kardashian is visiting the White House to discuss prison reform.
So the White House will have an obnoxious and overexposed fake tabloid trash reality TV celebrity that was born with a silver spoon in their mouth and has absolutely zero actual skills and no real reason for being famous.
Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
That's lame Bill Maher level humour right there. He makes that type of joke at least three times per monologue.
Thu May 31, 2018 9:25 am
Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Looks like Tarriffs are coming at our most loyal trading partners. Ironically Trump is more of an enemy to the free market than most Democrats
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Thu May 31, 2018 10:09 am
i.hope
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
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A new Harvard study estimates that nearly 5,000 people died in Puerto Rico due to Hurricane Maria - a much larger number than the official government death toll of 64.
Thu May 31, 2018 12:16 pm
Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Depends on how one defines cause here. I am sure the Feds will only define a death caused by the hurricane if it occurred tmdurung the actual storm, whereas the Harvard study will include any deaths caused by the consequences of the storm. The Feds will then argue that any deaths due to consequences are more so to blame if the island’s weak infrastructure and it is inconsequential that these were exposed due to a hurricane.
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Thu May 31, 2018 12:24 pm
i.hope
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
The official count, in general, should include "indirect" deaths. Hurricane Katrina's toll included both "direct" and "indirect" deaths. This makes Puerto Rico's low count look fishy.
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CNN surveyed funeral homes after the storm and tallied 499 hurricane-related deaths. The New York Times compared official death records from September and October 2017 and identified more than 1,000 excess deaths, compared with the average for 2015 and 2016. Alexis Santos, a researcher at Penn State University, and a colleague, used death certificates to come up with a similar estimate.
The government of Puerto Rico commissioned researchers from George Washington University's Milken Institute School of Public Health to estimate excess deaths. Results of that study have been delayed and are due out this summer.
Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Trump's premature characterization of the impact of Hurricane Maria (comments like "proud of the low number of deaths" and "avoiding a real catastrophe like Katrina") was at the very least not helpful.
His constant emphasis on the "good" news (excellent rescue job!) and downplaying of the severity of the damage were disingenuous.
The media's focus on Trump's comments instead of spending more time reporting on the victims and the damages was substandard journalism.
Thu May 31, 2018 1:15 pm
Caius
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
So we all agree the right would be savaging Obama if he treated Kim the way Trump is, right? And I put myself on the right, but not a Trump lickspittle.
Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Um he is by the never trump bots.
But we can also AGREE that if Obama had accomplished this signature signing the mentally ill left would be salivating at Obama getting a SECOND Noble Peace Prize.
please...
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Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:51 am
Algren
now we know
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Both sides are fickle and mentally retarded. Move on.
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:31 am
i.hope
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
"The right" is the euphemism for "principles-free cheerleading propagandists".
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:49 am
Shack
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
The left would be treating Obama as a deity if bridged the gap with NK
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:51 pm
Groucho
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Shack wrote:
The left would be treating Obama as a deity if bridged the gap with NK
Except Trump isn't "bridging the gap" he's giving aid to North Korea while alienating South Korea and the rest of our allies.
This is like saying, "Well, yes, he purposely burned down the house but look! He saved a puppy."
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