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 Second Year of University! 
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Mario is pudgy and had a speech impediment l. Never really considered him a threat but here we are.

I was drawn to Lucy first because I agreed she was much hotter. But the attention Belle gave me was what got me attracted to her, because Lucy never gave me any attention. Though Lucy has changed and grown and isn’t so closed off and cliquey anymore, so maybe I’ll try again.

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Well he mentioned it when he started this story


Yeah, I just didn't recall it well, thanks for the link to that other post.


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Well he mentioned it when he started this story


I've not read a word of his story.


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Don't! 95% of them are Names, church, prayer.

That was bad on so many levels. Part 3 Sub section 1 is hands down the worst, as Zwacks just started referring himself as William, and didn't even mention that, so you're like who the fuck is William for the first half of it.

Can we archive and lock this thread just so when the shooting happens we have his manifesto?

In all serious, getting snaked by a close friend has to suck. Though getting snaked by a guy that's "pudgy with a speech impediment" has to suck times infinity. But a close friend? No guy does that to his boy. I wouldn't be friends just on that principle alone. You dropped a ball by not telling him he was the one to break the trust.

Zwackwerm is basically Corey Haim in Lucas, except instead of Charlie Sheen, he lost out to Chunk from the Goonies.

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He’s not like fat, he’s just a little round around the edges. And he’s (well I thought he was before this) an awesome person and I was sure a girl would overlook those flaws once they got to know him. Didn’t expect it to be her though.

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To be frank:

You are delusionizing yourself with someone who said they wanted nothing with you that way to begin with(And she did the nice way of saying if Mario didn't come along)

PS she is horrible for saying "Id be with you if something better did't come along" And I'm not sure if that is you embellishing, but that is a horrible statement for someone to say to someone.

You really need to branch out of this group. I get that you are religious, but man you are the outcast of probably the smallest group in the college. Can't you just go to lunch and sit at a random table and introduce yourself? Or just go to someone in class and strike up a conversation with someone. What I used to do. Find a girl that hasn't seen a great movie, have her come over and see it. It might not lead to anything, but maybe you hook up, or maybe you just get a friend out of it. Read the situation. I can guarantee you will be rejected, but it will help with the social awkwardness, but there will be a few that say yes to a movie or study session. This group just sounds super toxic now. Why not theater? Even if you don't get an audition there has to be improv or sketch comedy auditions. And talk about your love of Disney songs, people will follow, but don't only do that. Talk about other things.

The "friendship" will never work if you are desperate for it, and that's what you sound like. Then it becomes the only thing people talk about quietly in the group.

You still do the religious stuff and stay in touch with the few that didn't wrong you.

But you cut mostly everyone else off, and really try. It might be painful. But you stick to it, and do things with other people. But these are good people and they will say "Dam I really miss William" and you will come back in, and hopefully in a more experienced way. You guys are spending way too much time together.

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She said more along the lines of “you’re a great guy, but I think there’s a better fit for me and I already liked Mario when I rejected you and I don’t know if things would have been different if he weren’t around”.

And I don’t think abandoning this group is a good idea. I’m not mad or resentful, but it’s still incredibly hard to see them together. I truly care deeply about both of them (at least for now) and if they find happiness with each other I don’t want to get in the way of that. I think I can still be friends with them despite the fact I wish things were different.”

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it’s still incredibly hard to see them together. I truly care deeply about both of them


I think you need to suggest a ménage à trois. ;)


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She said more along the lines of “you’re a great guy, but I think there’s a better fit for me and I already liked Mario when I rejected you and I don’t know if things would have been different if he weren’t around”.

And I don’t think abandoning this group is a good idea. I’m not mad or resentful, but it’s still incredibly hard to see them together. I truly care deeply about both of them (at least for now) and if they find happiness with each other I don’t want to get in the way of that. I think I can still be friends with them despite the fact I wish things were different.”


I didn't say abandon the group. But you have to branch out, and slightly ice them out. Why not bring a girl to these movie nights out of the group?

This will get you thicker skin. And I'm not talking about your group. You need it for real life. You can't have this imploding mentality. Imagine when you date someone and it goes bad. Whatever you are feeling now, it's only gonna get worst in real life. If you don't do it now, you're gonna hurt the rest of your life.

I got the cold shoulder from a Sorority because I dated one girl and she went crazy so I ended it and said we are going to get back together. And the only reason I know that is a friend from high school was in the same sorority and said there was literally a meeting about me, that I was not to be touched so they could get back together. And I was like "WTF we had 5 dates at most"

There are countless people I care dearly about that I don't talk to anymore because it's good for ME. Everyone goes through this. You'll never be friends with people you wish they would fail. And if they do (And of course they will) you will be even worse in the group for trying again. BRANCH OUT, that's all Im saying

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Not really hanging out with Mario feels so weird. He still hasn’t forgiven me. Belle forgave me immediately. It’s just weird because I thought that since me and Mario were way closer, he’d forgive me faster. But it seems he won’t forgive me until next semester. All I’ve gotten him to say is “I don’t necessarily think our close friendship has to be over forever”. But he refused to give me any more reassurance than that.

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Give the man some space. If you start more drama it'll make it worse

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Give the man some space. If you start more drama it'll make it worse

I just hoped he’d forgive me before the semester ended. Belle forgave me immediately.

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He told you all you need to know when he said this:

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"William, when you were chasing Belle, I was on your side, rooting for you the whole time. I didn't expect it, but I really hoped that when I told you about me and Belle, you'd be on my team. But you weren't and that told me you were not always going to put your needs after that of your friends. So I just gotta say, I don't trust you at all man. I still like you, we can still be friends, but we will have to rebuild trust and intimacy next semester. I don't want to hang out with you one on one like we used to. I don't want to go to breakfast or be vulnerable. It's all gone. We will either rebuild next semester; or we won't. Things just won't be the same at the start, and maybe they won't ever."


He doesn't want to hang out for a while cause you broke his trust. If you bring things up again with him I would make it clear that you 100% support him and Belle being together and have moved on to other girls.

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He told you all you need to know when he said this:

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"William, when you were chasing Belle, I was on your side, rooting for you the whole time. I didn't expect it, but I really hoped that when I told you about me and Belle, you'd be on my team. But you weren't and that told me you were not always going to put your needs after that of your friends. So I just gotta say, I don't trust you at all man. I still like you, we can still be friends, but we will have to rebuild trust and intimacy next semester. I don't want to hang out with you one on one like we used to. I don't want to go to breakfast or be vulnerable. It's all gone. We will either rebuild next semester; or we won't. Things just won't be the same at the start, and maybe they won't ever."


He doesn't want to hang out for a while cause you broke his trust. If you bring things up again with him I would make it clear that you 100% support him and Belle being together and have moved on to other girls.

Yeah, we shouldn’t forget what happened but forgiveness is supposed to come pretty fast, especially for someone who should be emulating the love of Jesus Christ. I agreed space was a good idea, but I didn’t expect such a grudge. I think he’s being unfair anyway. He would have been pissed initially if it were the other way around too. He shouldn’t expect me to be perfect and make no mistakes.

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You do not get it.

This whole "other way around" is the worst argument ever. Here's what happened:

Guy is your friend and wanted you to win.
You struck out for 18 months, so he knew it would never happen.
They developed feelings and tried their best not to hurt you
You publicly were resentful and made fun of the relationship constantly, hoping it would fail.
You think it's unfair that he doesn't forgive you in a month.

You need to walk away from this, and really give it time. There is nothing worse then the person who you currently hate constantly comes up with you and pesters them about why they hate you. Give at least 3 months.He'll come to you when he is ready.

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You do not get it.

This whole "other way around" is the worst argument ever. Here's what happened:

Guy is your friend and wanted you to win.
You struck out for 18 months, so he knew it would never happen.
They developed feelings and tried their best not to hurt you
You publicly were resentful and made fun of the relationship constantly, hoping it would fail.
You think it's unfair that he doesn't forgive you in a month.

You need to walk away from this, and really give it time. There is nothing worse then the person who you currently hate constantly comes up with you and pesters them about why they hate you. Give at least 3 months.He'll come to you when he is ready.


Made fun of it constantly? I was only jealous and mad for like 2 and a half days.
I think it is fair to be a little jealous; I think it's human nature. Belle even said "it's okay to be mad; I know if I were you I would hate us." I was just thinking about how he kept it from me for weeks and how I'd have to watch him with her for at least the foreseeable future, doing all the couple things. Living the life I wanted. That's hard as shit. All my other friends, including Belle, were surprised I came around so quickly, and all of our mutual friends, including Belle, think he should have at least said the words "I forgive you" by now. He's totally just getting a kick out of holding it over my head at this point. Whenever I saw him the last couple weeks since my apology, I could tell that he really didn't want to hold back and be distant, but he felt I needed to be punished. And I do, to the extent of not hanging out with him for the last two weeks of the semester. But having him still holding this grudge is occupying my thoughts for most of my waking hours. I forgave him for lying about his feelings for Belle, about the trip, and how they'd basically already been together for like 3 weeks. I don't think what I did is any worse. I also think for some reason he fears I'll come between them somehow. He's very insecure about losing her already and they've been dating officially less than two weeks,

And why is the other way around the worst argument ever? It helped me be okay with them after realizing I'd be doing the same thing in his shoes.

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He has every right to feel like you broke his trust. You talked shit behind his back and rooted for his relationship to fail.

Why don't you just be the best friend you can be? Which is to listen to him when he said he wants space and support him and Belle being together. You're asking him to be a more loyal friend to you, instead of taking the steps to be a more loyal friend to him

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Seriously dude. I know you’re all Jesus this and forgiveness that. But you did the guy wrong. And that’s normal life. And normal people don’t forgive usually, and if they do it’s only at face value. And you’re getting into weird vibes that he is relishing in his punishment? That’s ludicrous.

Strike up a conversation with someone you never did with today. You can even mention that you are doing this because you want to get out of your normal routine. And just be simple, what are your holiday plans? And do not mention Jesus!

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And do not mention Jesus!

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Why don't you just be the best friend you can be? Which is to listen to him when he said he wants space and support him and Belle being together.


I'm doing both of those things already. I've been giving him as much space as possible, but he also said "don't avoid me completely and pretend we don't know each other". The semester is now over and I won't see him till the end of January, but we see each other like 5, 6 or 7 days a week because of mutual friends and activities. And I've been in support of their relationship since two Sundays ago.

I don't want to be best friends or go back to hanging out all the time. I just want there to be no hard feelings.

But I don't recall rooting for their relationship to fail? When I first found out I thought "no way they'll break up, they'd never hurt each other." True I didn't want them together because of my jealousy, but I don't think that's the same.

He has told me exactly the reason he is mad. He does not care all that much about the fact that I was mad. He is worried that I am going to still try and get Belle to like me instead of him. He says he believes me when I say I don't go after girls with boyfriends. But this still bothers him for some reason. She likes him and not me and he shouldn't be so paranoid, because that will hurt their relationship more than I ever could.

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I finally get The Last Jedi now, and The Room, and the Matrix, and I Heart Huckabees. But Zwacks? You are the most frustrating thing in existence. How are you not getting THIS?

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How's it going with Mario?

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How's it going with Mario?

He actually texted me and forgave me today! But he’s still being a little weird, I have to see him in person before I believe he’s not just saying it.

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Just saying it confirmed! Admitted to me last night he’s still mad! :funny: :funny: :funny:

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Have you said you're sorry?

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