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Caius
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Gorsuch. If the remainder of this admin is a continuation of the status quo but he continues to nominate judges like Gorsuch (especially when Breyer/Ginsburg/Kennedy leave), I'll take that.
I expected a shit show based on his failed business career and general ignorance and he has mostly lived down to that expectation.
I expect single payer either when he loses in 2020 or when the House flips in 2018 and he makes a deal with Democrats since he has always favored single payer (because reasons).
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
His Supreme Court pick has been a win
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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: His Supreme Court pick has been a win But Obama should have picked it!!!!!!!
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
zwackerm wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: His Supreme Court pick has been a win But Obama should have picked it!!!!!!! Honestly it was suppose to be his pick, but the GOP made sure that did not happen
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
zwackerm wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: His Supreme Court pick has been a win But Obama should have picked it!!!!!!! I know this is fake outrage sarcasm. But this is correct. Fuck Gorsuch.
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Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:21 am |
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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy wrote: zwackerm wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: His Supreme Court pick has been a win But Obama should have picked it!!!!!!! I know this is fake outrage sarcasm. But this is correct. Fuck Gorsuch. If the last president were a Republican and the current president were Democrat, you'd be happy that the last president didn't pick it. Not to mention he very much supports a woman's "right to choose".
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Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:23 am |
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Libs
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
zwackerm wrote: Chippy wrote: zwackerm wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: His Supreme Court pick has been a win But Obama should have picked it!!!!!!! I know this is fake outrage sarcasm. But this is correct. Fuck Gorsuch. If the last president were a Republican and the current president were Democrat, you'd be happy that the last president didn't pick it.Not to mention he very much supports a woman's "right to choose". So? It's still obstruction and Merrick Garland, a highly qualified judge, wasn't chosen because the Republicans are selfish dicks.
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Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:29 am |
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
lol what? The president is elected and that comes with the power to nominate a Supreme Court Justice. Obama was elected TWICE. The people wanted HIM to name his Justice. The republicans threw a fucking HISSY FIT and vowed to not confirm a Justice if Clinton was elected. FUCK GORSUCH.
And he's pro-choice? WTF have you read? Everything I've read says he leans slightly to pro-life, but nobody knows because he's never ruled on anything like it.
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Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:31 am |
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Groucho
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy wrote: lol what? The president is elected and that comes with the power to nominate a Supreme Court Justice. Obama was elected TWICE. The people wanted HIM to name his Justice. The republicans threw a fucking HISSY FIT and vowed to not confirm a Justice if Clinton was elected. FUCK GORSUCH.
And he's pro-choice? WTF have you read? Everything I've read says he leans slightly to pro-life, but nobody knows because he's never ruled on anything like it. The Republicans refused Obama's pick, saying "the people should decide" referring to the upcoming election as a way to obstruct a highly qualified person. Well, the people did decide. They voted for Hillary by a pretty big margin. The Electoral College may have gone the other way, but it's pretty clear what the people wanted.
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Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:36 am |
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Caius
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Groucho wrote: Chippy wrote: lol what? The president is elected and that comes with the power to nominate a Supreme Court Justice. Obama was elected TWICE. The people wanted HIM to name his Justice. The republicans threw a fucking HISSY FIT and vowed to not confirm a Justice if Clinton was elected. FUCK GORSUCH.
And he's pro-choice? WTF have you read? Everything I've read says he leans slightly to pro-life, but nobody knows because he's never ruled on anything like it. The Republicans refused Obama's pick, saying "the people should decide" referring to the upcoming election as a way to obstruct a highly qualified person. Well, the people did decide. They voted for Hillary by a pretty big margin. The Electoral College may have gone the other way, but it's pretty clear what the people wanted. Then I want Judge Bork in place of Justice Kennedy at least until Bork's death. The people spoke and elected Reagan yet Democrats refused to approve him. Not sure what the election margin of the President has to do with the Senate's advise and consent rule.
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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy wrote: lol what? The president is elected and that comes with the power to nominate a Supreme Court Justice. Obama was elected TWICE. The people wanted HIM to name his Justice. The republicans threw a fucking HISSY FIT and vowed to not confirm a Justice if Clinton was elected. FUCK GORSUCH.
And he's pro-choice? WTF have you read? Everything I've read says he leans slightly to pro-life, but nobody knows because he's never ruled on anything like it. https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbar ... court/amp/
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Libs
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
zwackerm wrote: Chippy wrote: lol what? The president is elected and that comes with the power to nominate a Supreme Court Justice. Obama was elected TWICE. The people wanted HIM to name his Justice. The republicans threw a fucking HISSY FIT and vowed to not confirm a Justice if Clinton was elected. FUCK GORSUCH.
And he's pro-choice? WTF have you read? Everything I've read says he leans slightly to pro-life, but nobody knows because he's never ruled on anything like it. https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbar ... court/amp/Please do not cite Breitbart as a factual source of anything.
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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Libs wrote: zwackerm wrote: Chippy wrote: lol what? The president is elected and that comes with the power to nominate a Supreme Court Justice. Obama was elected TWICE. The people wanted HIM to name his Justice. The republicans threw a fucking HISSY FIT and vowed to not confirm a Justice if Clinton was elected. FUCK GORSUCH.
And he's pro-choice? WTF have you read? Everything I've read says he leans slightly to pro-life, but nobody knows because he's never ruled on anything like it. https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbar ... court/amp/Please do not cite Breitbart as a factual source of anything. http://www.newsweek.com/roe-wade-decisi ... now-573120Lol, did not realize that was Bannons website. It's not Gorsuchs fault the Republicans blocked Obama.
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
zwackerm wrote: It's not Gorsuchs fault the Republicans blocked Obama. It wasn't Merrick Garland's fault either. We could go back and forth on this all day.
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Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:10 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: Chippy wrote: lol what? The president is elected and that comes with the power to nominate a Supreme Court Justice. Obama was elected TWICE. The people wanted HIM to name his Justice. The republicans threw a fucking HISSY FIT and vowed to not confirm a Justice if Clinton was elected. FUCK GORSUCH.
And he's pro-choice? WTF have you read? Everything I've read says he leans slightly to pro-life, but nobody knows because he's never ruled on anything like it. The Republicans refused Obama's pick, saying "the people should decide" referring to the upcoming election as a way to obstruct a highly qualified person. Well, the people did decide. They voted for Hillary by a pretty big margin. The Electoral College may have gone the other way, but it's pretty clear what the people wanted. Then I want Judge Bork in place of Justice Kennedy at least until Bork's death. The people spoke and elected Reagan yet Democrats refused to approve him. Not sure what the election margin of the President has to do with the Senate's advise and consent rule. I'm not talking about shit that happened when you were growing up. I'm talking about shit that happened IN THE LAST YEAR. Will you just fucking stop with your shit?
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Shack
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I didn't think Trump could surprise me with anything, then I read his TIME interview. What the fuck? And somehow the POTUS gave an interview where he literally talked like a crazy person and it just got passed off as another Trump day that I didn't read it for a week
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Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:27 pm |
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Caius
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy wrote: I'm not talking about shit that happened when you were growing up. I'm talking about shit that happened IN THE LAST YEAR.
Will you just fucking stop with your shit? My apologies for not being as historically illiterate as you. I'll try to cut back. I had forgot about the "IN THE LAST YEAR" clause of the Constitution.
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
lol keep grasping at those straws
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Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:54 am |
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Groucho
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote: Then I want Judge Bork in place of Justice Kennedy at least until Bork's death. The people spoke and elected Reagan yet Democrats refused to approve him.
Not sure what the election margin of the President has to do with the Senate's advise and consent rule. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of Republicans saying they shouldn't even have hearings on Obama's pick because "the people should decide" and then ignoring that argument a year later. There were hearings on Bork. They advised and they didn't consent. That's how it works. The Constitution does not say the Senate should just rubber stamp anyone. Had the Republicans had hearings on Garland and then not approved him, that would be different. But they refused to do even that.
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Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:08 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I am watching this speech from Trump where it is so poorly spoken, but people dumb enough might fall for it. He literally will just say something then throws in "jobs." He then says how many regulations he is going to scale back, but then says water will be cleaner than ever, and without any segway talks about how many jobs he will create.
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Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:04 pm |
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Caius
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Groucho wrote: Caius wrote: Then I want Judge Bork in place of Justice Kennedy at least until Bork's death. The people spoke and elected Reagan yet Democrats refused to approve him.
Not sure what the election margin of the President has to do with the Senate's advise and consent rule. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of Republicans saying they shouldn't even have hearings on Obama's pick because "the people should decide" and then ignoring that argument a year later. There were hearings on Bork. They advised and they didn't consent. That's how it works. The Constitution does not say the Senate should just rubber stamp anyone. Had the Republicans had hearings on Garland and then not approved him, that would be different. But they refused to do even that. Isn't the effect the same? That is the point I don't understand. Republicans hold hearings and refuse to consent to Garland or Republicans refuse to hold hearings and refuse to consent to Garland. What is the difference? In both instances he is not voted up to the S.Ct. If the votes were there for Garland (50 + Biden or 60 with filibuster), I feel McConnel would have been forced to bring him forward. The one thing you elide is the people spoke and Trump won and yes I realize he didn't win the popular vote (I did not vote for him) but popular vote is not how we elect the President. The Falcons were ahead the entire Super Bowl until the final second. Does that mean they won? Certainly they won the important "time ahead" battle.
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Caius
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy wrote: lol keep grasping at those straws Ah ok. It is settled.
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Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:18 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Yes because "minutes winning" is the same as having THE MOST VOTES
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Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:53 am |
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I preferred the Republicans-out-of-power ranting to the Democrats-out-of-power whining.
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Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:59 am |
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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Bitter!
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