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Author:  Corpse [ Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:58 pm ]
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And in one night, Owens and Zayne go from likable heels to the most hated heels on the roster.

Author:  Mister Ecks [ Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:31 am ]
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They do heel so well. Better than anyone else on the current roster.

Author:  Mister Ecks [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:20 pm ]
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It's crazy how much the audience loves Daniel Bryan. It's deserved, but he really is the most over babyface in the last number of years. No one gets that kind of sustained reaction.

It's also crazy how we only have two weeks of shows left before the big event, and there's no confirmed match for The Undertaker yet. If he comes out this Monday to anything but the typical Dead Man gimmick, I'll be marking out. They can't possibly have him do that after all the shots Cena has fired at him.

Also curious where they go with Matt Hardy and Bray Wyatt. It'll be a waste of time to throw them into the Andre the Giant battle royale. It was such a ridiculous match on Monday, but it kind of worked for me in its lunacy. And it closed RAW, which must mean some sort of confidence from Vince, despite Cole burying it. It was the first time that the Woken thing kind of came into its own. If WWE has some sort of plan to follow through with it all, I'll be shocked, but closing out a RAW on one of the last shows before Wrestlemania is substantial.

Author:  Corpse [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:52 pm ]
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I took Bray's loss as a means of writing him off for awhile. And hopefully they change his character before his return, because he's been one of the biggest disappointments in years despite his talent and former popularity (audiences have been over him since 2016 or so).

Author:  Corpse [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:41 pm ]
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And is this Bliss/Jax angle really the best they could do? Given WWE's women's revolution movement and all, a body shaming story comes across in a very negative way.

Yeah, Nia and Alexa are great friends in real life and it's all an act, of course, but younger fans likely aren't aware of any of that, so the message they may be receiving is unfortunate. And considering Nia has openly discussed being body shamed backstage before (early 2017, I think), it's odd she (and Alexa) agreed to do it -- unless they were demanded to or something.

I don't know, maybe I'm overreacting.

Author:  Mister Ecks [ Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:27 am ]
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Not really. WWE has plenty to be proud of in terms of evolving, but there are people working backstage (Vince I'm sure is included in this) that still think in terms of archaic wrestling ideas. It's such a silly, cheap ploy to do a body shaming storyline. This is the same company that took their best female wrestler, Natalya, and gave her a storyline where she farted.

Author:  Mau [ Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:36 pm ]
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I mean, the Bliss/Nia story is SO GOOD, yeah it's not pm yo make fin of Nia but Alexa SHINES on this and it's All ending with Nia beating Bliss un a squash it's done.

Victim becomes Victor

Author:  Mister Ecks [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:38 pm ]
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But they book Nia like Big Show. Sometimes she's an unstoppable monster, sometimes she's not. Asuka coming in with her undefeated streak has kind of made it unnecessary to have Nia run the same type gimmick, but that would have been good for her.

Crazy that Mania is less than two weeks away. Some of the matches feel heavily under-hyped. We need an Undertaker appearance tonight. If it's Dead Man, I could care less.

Author:  Corpse [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:13 pm ]
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No Taker again tonight. It seems incredibly likely we'll be getting Biker Taker, in my opinion. Cena's mocking, and no typical Taker build up (gongs, lights, etc.), strongly suggests it.

When he shows up next week, I imagine it'll be one of the biggest pops he's received in a long time, and Taker always receives some of the biggest receptions anyway. It should be something special.

Author:  Mister Ecks [ Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:21 am ]
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It'll be a huge letdown if he comes out in his usual Dead Man garb. Some new fans won't get Biker Taker right away, but most will. And it kind of allows him to be able to actually talk and do interviews, if he so chooses, without a gimmick holding him back.

Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:45 pm ]
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Cleveland Raw was a huge letdown. That final hour had so much filler and really sucked because of it. But hey, it was all building towards a huge moment at the end that the audience would never forget! Except there was nothing, nothing but disappointment that is. That crowd was ready to go nuts for a gong and/or "Rollin".

Author:  Mister Ecks [ Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:01 pm ]
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Yeah, I don't get why Cena and Kane closed RAW. It was obviously a setup for something special, and it didn't come. Likely he won't be present next week either, just send a message of some kind.

Michael Cole obnoxiously burying Woken Matt Hardy is a disappointment. He's obviously being told to, likely by Vince. I know the gimmick is beyond absurd, but it's far from the most absurd thing WWE has done.

I'm so worried about Ronda Rousey. The crowd hasn't turned yet, but once she's in the ring, I think the tide will shift. I don't have confidence that she has any abilities for wrestling. No ring skill, no mic skill, no charisma. Adopting the "Rowdy" nickname. I know she's had it for a while, but it feels so forced to constantly introduce her as Rowdy Ronda Rousey.

I'm shocked by how little Wrestlemania is being pushed in the ring. Have Styles and Nakamura had any legit buildup to their match? I know Nakamura is limited on the mic, but it feels like they aren't even trying. If that opens Wrestlemania, so help me.

Triple H and Stephanie should be present two weeks out from Mania. And Rousey should have had more appearances too. Saving it all for the last RAW to Mania isn't a good hype buildup.

Lesnar and Reigns are good, but it's just the typical Lesnar feud. Enter Lesnar, enter his quarterly opponent, have them brawl, rinse, repeat. Having Reigns beat down two weeks in a row is negating any good-will they mustered with his first few promos.

Undertaker no-showing all these weeks is a shitty way to build a match with Cena. These two should have had a face-to-face by now. Instead, they'll confirm a match between the two six days out from the big event. A match like that should have weeks of hype and buildup from both, not Cena inexplicably calling Undertaker out for not agreeing to a match with him, just because. Dude is 53 years old. You need to have a little more storyline reason for him to accept a match.

And the card is dying for a big name to appear on it, hence why we're also so close to an officlal match for Daniel Bryan. So little time to advertise it, but of course he'll have his big return match.

Any predictions what will appear on the pre-show? Safe money is the two battle royals, but they would be remiss to leave the women off the main card. There may be three matches involving the women, but a fourth couldn't hurt for publicity. The first ever Wrestlemania to feature four matches involving women.

Author:  Corpse [ Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:22 pm ]
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The USOs are on the WrestleMania 34 promotional poster, but they don't have a match yet... They've never had a WrestleMania match, and they're as overs as they've ever been, so I hope they're on the main card. I'm assuming a triple-threat tag team match (possibly a TLC?) involving them, the Bludgeon Brothers, and the New Day will be announced tonight, right?

And are Sasha and Bayley still going to remain in the Battle Royal match? Feels like a bit of a waste considering the solid build up (if overdue...) to not give them a one-on-one.

I think the US title match is going on the pre-show, unless the Smackdown Tag title match gets it... The Andre Battle Royal is probably going to be here. And unfortunately, the Cruiserweight title match will probably be on there as well. Those three will fill the first hour.

As for a main card opener, I'm betting on one of the Women's title matches or the IC title match.

Author:  Mister Ecks [ Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:00 am ]
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USOs vs. New Day vs. Bludgeon Brothers is official. But that feels extremely pre-show to me as well. They all deserve the spot on the big show, but it's down to timing and what other nonsense they'll have fill the show.

Sasha vs. Bayley with the rest of the womens' roster serving as Lumberjills would have been better than the battle royal. Definitely a huge waste for both.

Daniel Bryan and Shane vs. Owens and Zayn is official. Kind of a letdown announcement. Felt anticlimactic despite Daniel's enthusiastic promo.

Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:34 pm ]
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Usos definitely have to make the main show since they’ve made a big deal about never being on it. Cruiserweight title, us title and mens Dre seem the most likely candidates.

New day/usos/bludgen open the show
Alexa v Nia
IC triple threat
Braun v The Bar
John Cena v Undertaker
Womens dre
Daniel Bryan/Shane v KO/Zayn
Elias gets beat up by a legend, preferably The Rock
Asuka v Charlotta
AJ Styles v Nakamura
Rousey
Reigns v Lesnar

Card is stacked and quite a few of these are only gonna get like ten minutes. Have to fit it all in though. AJ v Nak and Asuka v Charlotte are the only ones that really need a bunch of time anyways.

Author:  Mister Ecks [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:24 am ]
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Did they really leave us without a Cena/Undertaker match for Wrestlemania on the final RAW before Wrestlemania? This is one of the most bizarre storylines in a long time. A match or even a confrontation of that caliber deserves a match confirmation. Either it happens at the show, or it doesn't happen. Neither makes sense. Of course everyone assumes he'll show at Mania, and that's probably the case, but now that Cena has officially said he'll go to the show as "a fan", to have him go out and taunt Undertaker one last time in New Orleans is kind of ridiculous. Instead of taking a spot in a match from younger talent, he'll take air time from younger talent after saying he was resigned to going as a fan.

I feel it's silly fighting a wrestling storyline, but sense has to be factored in somewhere.

Author:  Mister Ecks [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:37 pm ]
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WWE has done its best to get Roman Reigns over. This has to be the best reactions he's gotten since his heel days with The Shield, just before they disbanded. He's still getting booed, and he'll get murdered by the New Orleans crowd on Sunday. But WWE did their best.

The Braun Strowman angle is not going to do him any favors moving forward. Doing a silly, Hulk Hogan as Mr. America-style gimmick where he pretends to be two different people is one of those comedy storylines that will damage him badly. Played up for laughs and so he can be Tag Team Champion on his own. Braun shouldn't be leaning so heavily on comedy.

But what do I know? I thought having Undertaker appear on RAW was obviously a done deal, or at least a confirmation from him.

Author:  Mister Ecks [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:44 pm ]
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My confidence in Ronda Rousey shrinks every week. She couldn't sell being put through a table. She just laid there, fuming and glaring at Stephanie. I wonder if Triple H and Stephanie will go over on Sunday, kind of like how he killed the notion of WCW's top guy, Sting, having any sort of momentum going against a WWE guy.

And now that we know which matches will be on the pre show (the two battle royals and the Cruiserweights), I also wonder which main show matches will be horribly cut short to allow for lesser matches to run 20-30 minutes? The two matches with McMahons will surely run 25 minutes each. Brock and Reigns won't be putting on a classic wrestling match, but they'll still get 25-30 minutes of victimizing each other. They'll likely end up trimming AJ and Shinsuke. The match that should go 30+ minutes will end up getting the shaft.

Author:  Corpse [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:50 pm ]
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I'm fine with Undertaker appearing at WrestleMania itself to accept Cena's challenge. I would have preferred a traditional build-up, but having Taker appear on the last Raw would have ultimately felt underwhelming, I believe, so may has well go all the way now. I don't know if it'll be an actual match, but they'll be some sort of confrontation.

I don't know regarding Angle/Rousey vs. HHH/Stephanie. Surely, they'll let Rousey go over, but it's hard to say, really. Rousey still needs a lot of practice on the mic and in the ring, clearly, so I wouldn't mind a loss, but man would that damage her for awhile... I don't know.

The commentators keep saying Braun must find a partner in order to participate in the Tag Team Title match. I'm assuming it'll be a returning star or a new signee. I just wish they had revealed who it was last night because leaving this match and Taker/Cena undecided like this is a little much.

I have a feeling Lesnar is going to retain, once again, on Sunday. Almost everything is indicating he's going to lose, including Heyman's choice of words as of late, but I don't know... It seems too convenient and predictable. They could have him lose it on the Raw after Mania.

I really hope the IC Title match is as good as the one-one-one matches between Rollins and Balor have been as of late. If Miz is on his A-game as well, this one could be one of the biggest highlights of the show.

I hope Nia beats Bliss, but I think it could still be a tad too soon. I don't think they'll have Carmella cash-in, or attempt to cash-in, during the Charlotte/Asuka match, but I can see her doing so for the Raw Women's Title.

Author:  Corpse [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:01 pm ]
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Also, the North American Title that Triple H just unveiled for NXT Takeover looks awesome.

Author:  Shack [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:26 am ]
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Up to the Smackdown where Bryan got cleared

- I thought making Brock beat up Reigns in handcuffs was an effective way to make him villainous after a few years of face-ish reactions. I do think there was enough material to make this feud more of a shoot though where Reigns goes off on Brock's status in the company. Maybe that's coming still. I hope Vince stays out of the storyline from now on, the worst mistake they made with Reigns was HHH Wrestlemania storyline where they tried to make them Stone Cold-Vince adversaries when it wasn't believable because everyone knew Vince is on his dick backstage

- I'm excited for Cena-Undertaker and Cena's promos have been great, but I'll be a little disappointed if they repeat the Bray-Undertaker move and make him now appear at all until Wrestlemania. Right now the build to Wrestlemania has been a bit lacking and they could use Cena-Undertaker taking center stage. I mean the last two Raws ended with Braun winning battle Royale and Ultimate Deletion, not that there was anything wrong with either but it's unusual for some of the biggest Raws of the year. They're really missing that Rollins Ambrose storyline

- I like the Alexa Nia story, but it's felt to me for a while that Alexa isn't really a Women's Evolution friendly champion. Not that Alexa is bad in the ring, but most of her skyrocket to the top comes from having the best promo/character and being hot, which is closer to the old way to do it. Now the Raw Women's title match isn't really a credible match psychologically because tiny heel Alexa being a threat to huge face Nia makes little sense, nor does it make any sense that Nia has been here since mid 2016 and still isn't champion and hasn't really gotten close.. It's easy to see Carmella cashing in at Wrestlemania or shortly after to become Raw champion and bullying Nia, but that adds another power player that's champion for her character more than anything else. I don't think it would go this way if it was male wrestlers, it'd be like if Miz was Universal champion defending against sympathetic underdog Braun Strowman while Elias cashes in Money in the Bank on them. So if WWE is serious about making women's wrestling as credible as males, should they start booking with exactly the same philosophy with Vince's sometimes groan worthy obsession with physical or technical credibility? Then again the problem is that making Naomi or Natalya champion is boring, it's difficult for them to find many Charlotte/Sashas of having the physical tools or skills while still being stars

Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:44 pm ]
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So while I was heavily disappointed by Taker not appearing in Cleveland a few weeks ago, the shots of Cena in the crowd as a "fan" at Mania will surely make up for it. And I'm no longer convinced he will actually face the American Badass despite all signs pointing to it. Maybe someone else comes out just to shut him up. If you smell what I'm cookin.

Author:  Corpse [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:38 pm ]
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Conor McGregor next WWE star? His attack on that bus is a straight-up WWE audition segment. :sweat:

Joking aside, the dude has certainly put his UFC career in jeopardy:

Dana White: "There is a warrant out for Conor McGregor's arrest. His plane cannot take off. He cannot leave the state of New York. I'm assuming if they don't catch him, he'll turn himself in. You can imagine, he'll be sued beyond belief. This was a real bad career move for him."

Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:03 pm ]
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Gargano put on another instant clasic with Ciamppa last night. And I'm glad they gave it the main event spot it deserved, wrapping up my new favorite Takeover. The ladder match was also aces, Black is still awesome and WHY RODDY WHY? Not even Ember Moon could bring it down!

My previous favorite was R Evolution.

Author:  Corpse [ Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:23 pm ]
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Yes, another excellent TakeOver -- perhaps the best one yet, but it's becoming increasingly difficult to rank them. And while Daniel Bryan said he wants Gargano on Smackdown, probably hinting that it'll happen at some point this year, I'd prefer if he stays in NXT. Creative has really struggled to book most NXT call-ups, and it'd be a shame if he goes the way of, say, Dillinger or even Roode (I know he's been in the upper mid-card with plenty of exposure, but his charisma has lacked due to being a babyface and his matches just haven't been the same, in my opinion.)

WrestleMania predictions anyone?

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