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What a way to reverse my interest in Survivor Series. From squash match to dream match.

I'm not a huge fan of having so many titles changing hands or potentially changing hands. But if this is the end of Jinder Mahal - WWE Champion, I'm OK with it.

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Wow, the rare double turn with Enzo and Neville. I guess heel Enzo with help is the only way to make him a credible champion, but I wasn't expecting face Neville. I thought they were keep Kalisto out of the division solely to wait for Neville vs Kalisto at Wrestlemania.

They should just make Emma's new gimmick that she changes her theme song every week. Though she's not the only one with rapid changes lately

Heel Ziggler is really a great fit as jobbing out to these new wrestlers like Nakamura and Roode. Not sure if it was because of injury but I'm glad they didn't make him spend 3 months jobbing to Tye Dillinger and Sami Zayn or whatever, it keeps him slightly stronger this way.

Is Nakamura vs Jinder going to be on the pre show or the main show? Zzz. The WWE champion would feel out of place in the final hour of Smackdown at this point. I hope those Asian subscribers are worth it. And it feels like they're setting up Rusev for a title run after going through Orton. More asian money!


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Reading Shack's post are like some bizarre time capsule of opinions where everything that happened only a few weeks ago is completely irrelevant today.

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It's funny how Rollins and Ambrose went through this huge storyline of to finally reconcile and get over his betrayal, but Becky went back to being BFF with Charlotte basically overnight despite her backstabbing and being one of the WWE's most irredeemable assholes for the better part of 2 years. It's not like Charlotte and Becky desperately needed a storyline to keep them on air for the whole summer or anything.


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What is WWE doing right now? I'd say they are caving to fan reactions, but they've never done that. But have any of the announced Survivor Series matches stayed intact? Now Triple H is wrestling with barely any build-up. I'm not complaining, most changes are going to make for a great card. Jinder Mahal is threatened to be laughed out of the building? Go with AJ Styles. Jason Jordan getting booed mercilessly? Bring back Triple H.

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It's all rather unpredictable, and I think I enjoy it. Attendance has been down all year, so perhaps they have decided to give in to the fans a bit for awhile.

Also, Bray lost in his return match. What in the world did he do to generate such heat backstage. :/

And I don't really understand the poor audience reception Jason Jordan has been receiving. Sure, he's being pushed by WWE and that's generally a turn off for "fans", but he cuts decent enough promos and is solid in the ring. *shrug*

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He's so poorly manufactured.

Everyone knows he isn't Kurt Angle's son. Strike 1. He's a forced babyface. Strike 2. His talent vastly outweighs his charisma. Strike 3.

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Hell in a Cell was good, I especially liked them on top of the cage because of the fear Shane would get pop up powerbombed through it. Shane jumping off lost some luster the second time but the Zayn twist is good though I don't love his chances as a heel if he goes that way and Owens doesn't need the bodyguard. Overall great emotional feud between Owens and Shane.

AJ Corbin Dillinger match was pretty fun for me, almost as fun as the HIACs. Dillinger has more potential than the create a wrestler I had him pegged as. I guess this means AJ goes to the main event scene? Please end this Jinder madness.

I guess it's over for Rusev, the Cena and Orton feuds were a real good litmus test to see if he had a next level and he didn't. Next stop comedy tag team with Aiden English?

Alexa and Mickie promos have been surprisingly awesome so far

Why not just have Sasha face Asuka at TLC and add a main event caliber match to the card? Give the people what they want.

Can't look up if he's injured cause of spoilers, but if not where is Samoa Joe? Joe vs Braun would be pretty fun. Joe vs Finn, etc.

I thoroughly enjoyed the Enzo as cruiserweight champion era, I almost wonder if it's a mistake to not keep him at the top, he could have had a solid 2-3 months with a faction (Daivari etc.) helping him cheat wins. He's not James Ellsworth in the ring, his athleticism on his DDG move was pretty awesome and for a bad wrestler the lumberjack match in the main event got a better reaction than basically any Neville match. I hope he at least stays in the division because he could be their Miz which is sorely needed. Speaking of cruiserweights I think they should put Tyler Breeze in it, Fashion Police segments have run their course and they were on 205 a few months ago making fun of Drew Gulak and it felt right. Xavier Woods would be an amazing cruiserweight but they can't get him from New Day.

Renee back to her short hair :wub2:


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KANE??? I thought it was going to be Samoa Joe as 5th member. I would be much more interested in them bringing back Corporate Kane since he does great promos, but I guess they'll be doing an Undertaker revenge thing? Reigns vs Kane Survivor Series feud sounds terrible.


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I'm hyped for War Games.

I also think AJ is gonna win.


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What the fucking fuck. Kurt Angle in the TLC match? Excited for it but I'm pretty surprised they would go to these lengths to save a B PPV TLC or couldn't find another replacement. Cena too busy? Even with Matt Hardy I would've still been excited to watch it, especially with Styles-Balor added to juice the card. It seems obvious now Angle was coming back to face Miz at Wrestlemania, but now that is going to be diluted by it not being his comeback match. Then again the Rock being in a tag match first didn't hurt things much.


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WarGames is definitely exciting. Can't wait.

Also, Survivor Series looks great on paper this year -- near Wrestlemania card worthy.

Lesnar vs. Styles -- Dream match caliber and could be great if it's more than 5-10 minutes.
Alexa vs. Charlotte -- This one can also be great, I just hope it's given proper time given the other matches on the card.
Team Raw (Women) vs. Team Smackdown (Women) -- RAW's team seems too dominate, but Paige is likely to be Smackdown's 5th member, and her potential return should balance things and make it more interesting.
Team Raw (Men) vs. Team Smackdown (Men) -- Given the talent, this should be excellent and with plenty of big spots. I'm just hoping HHH, Angle, Shane, Orton, and Cena don't overshadow the newer talent on their teams too much.
The Miz vs. Corbin -- Their online feud has been strong, but this one seems very likely to be cut short considering the rest of the card so I'm not expecting more than a decent match. And there's really no where else this story can go post-SS.
The Shield vs. The New Day -- I'm beginning to suspect this could be a squash match, which could be "entertaining", but hopefully it's not since it has match of the night potential.

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I know it's a high bar, but TakeOver: War Games is definitely among the best of them. Lars and Ohno was just a decent opener, but every other match truly excelled.

Aleister Black and Velveteen Dream put on an excellent match with perfect build and chemistry, certainly a MOTY candidate. And the War Games Match itself... incredible; everyone in that match gave it 110% (especially Sanity -- all of them were bleeding) and is another MOTY candidate.

I just hope Drew McIntyre (that drop looked very rough) and Alexander Wolfe (nasty looking laceration based on what the cameras allowed us to see) aren't injured.

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Great show, though I liked Brooklyn a bit more.

Cien winning the title isn't quite Jinder Mahal levels of shocking, but it is close. Drew got injured and is out for 6 months though, so I guess it is for the best (though obviously they didnt know that when they booked it lol.) War Games was great, even with the nonsensical first part of the match. Wolfe looked like he lost half the blood in his body. And Dain looked like a star.

My biggest complaint is Ember Moon. I've never liked her or he stupid contacts, but storywise this is a bust too. So the woman who got whupped by Asuka over and over and over is now her succesor? Lame. Should have been Peyton or even Nikki, giving Kairi a solid feud for the next few months until she is ready to take the division. Ember winning is so #NotIconic


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I imagine Ember's reign will be pretty short. I think it's just a 'thank you' to her from the back given her contributions and time in the company, especially since they were in Texas (her home state). I think one of the commentators mentioning that she's only the sixth NXT Women's Champion versus Cien being the twelfth NXT Champion wasn't just a stat comment.

Peyton will probably win it soon.

Too bad about McIntyre. I'm not surprised given his fall, but six months.. yesh.

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That sure was a shitty main event...

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Roode and Nakamura largely being treated like jobbers (especially Roode); Balor doing next to nothing (besides the nice showdown with Nakamura); Owens/Zayne interference resulting in nothing; HHH's bizarre turn and forcing an Angle feud; Strowman beating HHH down (even if that was the "highlight"). The entire match felt like it wasn't planned whatsoever, or just hours before, and not in a good way.

Seriously, why not just have Owens/Zayne interfere properly and cost Shane and Smackdown the match?

And it sure as hell seemed like the Stephanie/Bryan promo was setting up for Bryan to make a surprise entry in the match by replacing an injured Shane... We even got the pondering shot of Bryan before the camera cut away. Odd.


Otherwise -- Lesnar/Styles was pretty good, as was The Shield vs. The New Day and Sheamus/Cesaro vs. The Usos, but everything else was just fine.

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Mandy Rose is the hottest female superstar EVER on wrestling. If she's as good as people claim, she'll be champion by 2018.

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So, Ruby Riot, Liv Morgan, and Sarah Logan debuted Smackdown -- that's six new female superstars added to the roster this week. There's 20.5 active women (Lana being the 0.5) on the main roster now. I know it's wishful thinking, but maybe we'll get a women's tag division in the near future? It'd be the perfect opportunity to, finally, call up the Iconic Duo, too.

Also, the rumored first ever women's rumble match at Royale Rumble in January is looking pretty likely as well. A few of the female talent that WWE signed around the time of the Mae Young Classic earlier this year could make their debuts in the rumble match, and a couple surprise entries from past female superstars, such as Kelly Kelly and Eva Torres, could easily bring the number up to 30.

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The rest of the card was weak (Balor Styles was good but not MOY) but damn I loved the TLC match. Kane turning on Braun was gold and all the Angle spots worked for me. Unfortunately there's been lots of Survivor Series ads on the websites I visit so I know Jinder's title reign will mercifully end soon.


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The Under Siege segment was good but it's funny that Smackdown brought their whole roster to Raw... well except for Orton, Owens, Zayn, Jinder, Charlotte, The Usos, who I assume were coming back from South America. But they almost brought their whole roster!


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Poor Zayn, he has his big heel turn and spends his first month losing matches as usual and getting left off Survivor Series. Owens seems to have lost the momentum he had during the great HIAC feud too. I don't know why the Smackdown team couldn't have been Shane, Orton, Nakamura, Owens and Zayn. As I write this I don't know who the 5th SD member is but I'm betting on Jinder though I guess it could be Owens. It would be ridiculous in general for KO to not be in the Survivor Series team.

I knew the result already but a Smackdown match on the more unpredictable land of opportunity show compared to Raw was always the best way for the Jinder reign to end. It was his best match too. I fear that Styles will lose the title back right after Survivor Series though. This was clearly a panic move after nobody wanted Lesnar Jinder. You can tell because they were advertising the Rusev Styles qualification match the week before. Didn't they mention they're defending the title in India in December too? Still I assume AJ was going to be the one to take the belt off Jinder eventually. So even if Jinder wins it back hopefully by the end of the feud Styles is champion.

Changing the titles on Raw to make it SHIELD vs New Day and Usos vs Sheamus/Cesaro is so awesome, the former is a dream match obviously (I hope Roman is healthy enough to wrestle and it's a 3 on 3 match) and the latter is one I really wanted to see as the two teams who have been burning down the house all year.

Is there a weirder matchup possible than Miz vs Baron Corbin? Both heels and two completely opposite types. Miz is destroying him though, calling him the bathroom break of Smackdown and that he won't be here in 2 years. I wonder how much of a face reaction he'll get.

Kane coming back and being destructive is fun until he wrestles a singles match and then it's like oh yea


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Reigns receiving a you deserve it pop... whaaa?

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Gimme Asuka vd Absolution already

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Raw's team is HHH, Angle, Braun, Balor and Joe? RIP Smackdown.

Total Divas ads with Lana talking in her real voice :lol: I know the accent makes her sexier but just write it into the storyline that she was faking it at this point.

Wow Jason Jordan got murdered on that Raw, that was Apollo Crews level. Cheering for Bray Wyatt? They obviously pushed him too hard but he had more moments than Crews. Maybe a heel turn where he was conning Angle the whole time would be the best way out of this. But I figure the main reason for this storyline was it will line up with Miz fatherhood story if that's a Wrestlemania match.


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He's so poorly manufactured.

Everyone knows he isn't Kurt Angle's son. Strike 1. He's a forced babyface. Strike 2. His talent vastly outweighs his charisma. Strike 3.


You used the word manufactured differently, but it made me realize what's wrong with Jordan. He's basically what you'd get if a bunch of corporate suits sat down and tried to design the next John Cena. He could be on Nickelodeon.


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